Curious .. What is the compared price of your tt vs spkrs

Agreed ...wow how cool would that be . As for the room acoustic i spent most of my life dealing with acoustics . They can be deal breakers i have read people write about placement and this and that making little difference . Well from my experience as a sound engineer its makes one hellava difference . As i said a great acoustical space can make a modest system sound great . Volume is what we tend to pay for or the ability to fill large spaces . For instance i have acoustic zen adagios ( which are killer)  5k msrp in a 13x 16 x10 something like that . Mr lee says there is no reason to upgrade to his next spkrs 14 k it will be overkill . Just like when i had mg 1.7( cple grand )if i had 3.5 it would be too much . Now  in my humble opinion either of these the adagio or my 1.7 would benefit from a killer front end . How much ? Well thats in the eye of the beholder some people think youve lost your mind when you have 25 k in a 2:1 system . Some have that in cables ya now . 

I feel a better comparison would be turntable + speed controller + tonearm + cartridge + phono stage compared to the speakers + amplifier.  We will leave the pre-amp alone as it connects the two. 

I feel a better comparison would be turntable + speed controller + tonearm + cartridge + phono stage compared to the speakers + amplifier.

If that were the case, my table/arm/cart, motor controller and phono stage ($13,140) would equal about 57% of the list price of my amplifier and speakers together ($22,880).

Quite a difference from the 100% I reported earlier, mostly because my amp is quite a bit more expensive than my speaker cables. Go figure.

My speakers are hard to price because they are part of a complete, matched system. I purchased them as demos from the gear's designer, but I also both the TT used. Best estimate is that the TT cost 1.15 times the speakers' selling price. That number is, however, implicitly misleading because mine are active speakers: the crossovers are onboard the amplifier to avoid the spurious vibrational and EMF interference that could result from vibrations within the speaker cabinets.

I want to add an analogy to the discussion of the turntable --it may work for some and not for others. I've been a photographer for decades, going back to the time of large format view camera photography.

In photographic performance (as I see it), the camera has to serve two functions: it has to be light-tight and hold the film flat. If there's no provision for optical correction (movements at the lens or film planes) then the camera also bears responsibility for holding the lens exactly perpendicular to the film. That's about it.

In turntable design, a turntable's responsibilities are similar. First and uncompromisingly foremost, the turntable must revolve at an accurate speed and have sufficient torque to 'power trough' complex passages in an LPs groove. Second, it must center the LP properly on the platter, and finally it must hold the tonearm in a firm and rigid position relative to the vinyl playing surface.

In my opinion, though none of these is even remotely trivial, the list of requirements is relatively short, when compared to the duties of either the tonearm or cartridge.

The cartridge has to decode and transmit the physical input from the groove to the tonearm cable. Implicit in this process is both converting the physical movement of the stylus in the groove to electrical impulses and amplifying that signal. The ratio of movement to signal is of such an order of magnitude that the precision required is of a very high order indeed.

The tonearm has the challenge of positioning the cartridge perfectly in its relationship to the groove and preserving the integrity of the signal so collected in its transmission to the phono preamplifier. It must also provide sufficient adjustability to allow for fine tuning for each individual LP, were the operator to wish to do so.

I don't believe it's a fair statement, or at least not a comprehensive answer, to say that the turntable in any given system can be assessed on its price alone (or its price ratio to the other transducer), if only because the TT's task is so complex, and also because the TT is, actually, a System in itself, as well as as subset of the listening system as a whole. Furthermore, the TT has so many variables: it has to be setup exactingly; the arm, cartridge and cable have to work together in complimentary fashion; and the TT has to match the system perfectly: phono pre, amplifier, cabling, and speakers. That's a heck of a lot to do.

I think this has been an interesting and satisfying discussion which I have enjoyed. I hope this perspective is of use as well.

cdk 
   I enjoyed that and I agree this indeed has been interesting.I enjoy the conversation.This hobby has so many small and large variables.Matching the complete setup creating the synergy is the key coupled with the right space and of course the optimum lp or any source.