Velodyne DD12 or DD15

Rwwear - I wish I could, but its my living room, complete with big dogs. The mains need to stay where they are and surprisingly, they sound much better than they ought to in that position. They are actually each about 3 feet from the back wall, although my pictures don't clearly show that.

I don't use my sub for music since I don't need to. I'd rather hear the tuned drivers of the VR-7s than that of the Velo for music. I've experimented both ways and it is VERY rare for any music I listen to to go below about 20-25Hz. Movies of course are a different story :-)

Fplanner2010,

This is a bit off topic, but what kind of imaging do you get with all that equipment between the mains? My experience has been that especially depth of soundstage increased as I removed clutter from between my speakers. The move to front projection had the greatest effect.

db

db - I get surprisingly good imaging, much better than I or others would have expected from this setup. It could probably be a bit better if I didn't have anything between the speakers and I realize that, but I am quite happy with the compromise for now. I've been very careful with component and cabling matching so as to get the best synergy I can, given the setup limitations. At 1 point the TV was going on the wall and I was going to redo everything, but life got in the way. For now, no more changes - it already sounds much better than I ever thought it could and I have very good, but not great depth of soundstage.

The "next" house will have a bigger audio room as well as a front projection TV - 3d digital is already out in projection, but as you would guess at such an early stage, its quite pricey.....

Back on topic, sort of - one of the benefits of not using the Velo for music is that I get much better imaging out of the mains on lower notes.

Yes they do have room EQ . You may want to do a side by side apples to apples comparison with the f112 and the DD12. I realize that some cities do not have dealers that carry both products though.

i tried both before landing on the dd12. for 2 channel music, i thought the 12 sounded *much* better (faster/tighter/cleaner). would have done the dd15 if theater was my main priority (which it is not).

which ever one you choose....take the time to set it up right. took me several hours but it was well worth it in the end. great interface with lots of options/settings. you just need to sort things out.