Volume Control setting corresponds to how many db down (-db) from 0db at full volume?


I’ve wanted to be able to estimate how many watts my amps are driving as it corresponds to my preamp’s volume control setting. More specifically with a typical volume control having a rotational range from say 7:00 o’clock around to 5:00 o’clock, (my Croft preamp actually goes from Noon to 9:00), roughly where would it be -3db or -6db, etc. In one system with my 50 watt push-pull pentode amp, I rarely go past 10:30 o’clock. With my 25 watt triodes in my other system I rarely go past 3:30 o’clock on the Croft. Interestingly that’s roughly the same degrees of rotation!? Can I estimate approximately how many watts I’m operating at in each system simply based upon the volume control setting?
elunkenheimer
yeah, Almarg, you are correct - the xfer fn of a power amp is linear. don’t know what I was thinking when i wrote that??? ;-) thanks for catching this.

re. VU meters - the manual of my vintage Yamaha says that the response time is 1uS. I don't think it mentioned a bandwidth per se. I'll have to go back & re-read it....
guys, 
i was thinking about this topic this morning & tell me why this won't work: 
elunkenheimer should use a voltmeter & measure the average voltage on the speaker binding posts (of amp or speaker - better at the speaker as it will take into account any I*R drop in the speaker cable). 
Then to calculate power simply do V^2/R where R is manuf specified average resistance of speaker (4 Ohms/6 Ohms/8Ohms, etc). 
elunkenheimer can do this calculation at several (or each if he wants to do the work) preamp volume knob settings.
Speaker impedance varies vs. freq but this will be a rough estimate of power being delivered to the speaker.
Bombaywalla, yes, that will work provided the meter has adequate speed and bandwidth.  And in fact about 35 years ago I had a Radio Shack audio power meter which worked in exactly that manner.

But the larger question I would raise about all of this is what's the point?  A brief dynamic peak in the music that is just 10 db louder than the level that is measured will require 10 times as much power.  A peak that is 20 db louder will require 100 times as much power.  In most circumstances most of the power capability of an amp is probably needed just for brief dynamic peaks.

It seems to me that it would be more meaningful to do an approximate calculation of the maximum SPL that can be generated at the listening position by the particular speaker/amp combo.  In past threads you and I have both posted info about how to do that.  For example see my second post in this thread.

Best regards,
-- Al
 
thanks Almarg.

But the larger question I would raise about all of this is what's the point?
let's hope the OP chimes in here & let's us know what is on his mind re. this.....