Do equipment stands have an impact on electronics?


Mechanical grounding or isolation from vibration has been a hot topic as of late.  Many know from experience that footers, stands and other vibration technologies impact things that vibrate a lot like speakers, subs or even listening rooms (my recent experience with an "Energy room").  The question is does it have merit when it comes to electronics and if so why?  Are there plausible explanations for their effect on electronics or suggested measurement paradigms to document such an effect?
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czarivey
3,301 posts
10-13-2016 11:51pm
if equipment stands will have direct impact on electronics than perhaps electronics will be destroyed.

the mind is a terrible thing to have. Better lay off the bud.



Isolation is vital! Mostly from the wife and kids.

But seriously, folks. I am lucky that my speakers are sitting on concrete. They sound best that way. I've tried a few intermediaries. Wood platforms, steel points, stiff felt. None helped, most made no difference.

My CD/SACD player does sound slightly better with sorbothane feet. Not so much that I'd be motivated to invest more. Am I missing out? Would a more expensive Isolation system improve the CD/SACD SQ more than the difference between sorbothane and nothing?
2channel8 wrote,

"But seriously, folks. I am lucky that my speakers are sitting on concrete. They sound best that way. I’ve tried a few intermediaries. Wood platforms, steel points, stiff felt. None helped, most made no difference."

But have you compared the concrete stands to decoupling? While I suspect we all agree that different materials produce different sound, there seems to be a fairly wide difference of opinions regarding coupling vs decoupling (isolation). As Townshend points out, isolating the speakers has two benefits - isolating the speakers from the forces of seismic type vibration and isolating the rest if the system from mechanical feedback produced by the speakers.

2channel8 also wrote,

"My CD/SACD player does sound slightly better with sorbothane feet. Not so much that I’d be motivated to invest more. Am I missing out? Would a more expensive Isolation system improve the CD/SACD SQ more than the difference between sorbothane and nothing?"

Sorbothane is one of those materials that seems like a really good idea but in practice can do more harm than good inasmuch as Sorbothane, like a lot of soft or compliant materials like say rubber, even lead, stores energy and prevents it’s rapid exist from the system. CD/SACD players in my experience benefit greatly from isolation. One reason I suspect that’s true is that the laser assembly itself is mounted on a set of tiny springs and that laser assembly is therefore at the mercy of the resonant frequency of the springs, circa 8 Hz. Thus low frequency seismic vibration comes up from the floor into the CD/SACD player and excites the laser assembly, over stressing the laser servo feedback system. Of course there are many other reasons to disallow structural vibration from the CD/SACD player such as the circuit boards and their sensitive microprocessors on board. This is not to say that certain things in the CD/SACD player themselves cannot produce unwanted vibration as well, you know, things like capacitors and transformers.

cheers


"equipment stands will have direct impact on electronics then perhaps electronics will be destroyed"

not a bad summary of some of the tweeker craziness in high end audio

BUT...  old-timey capacitors (the kind with metal fins) ARE known to change capacitance due to microphonics (so there can be real effects on your 1930s gear)

On the list of plausible but apparently unproven effects, I'd list tubes; after that, mechanical sub-assemblies like the laser mounting noted above for CD players (except... the error correction algorithms ought to take care of that)

Otherwise, you will have to show me some data.  It will be easy to set up an experiment using a vibrometer or your laser interferometry test equipment.  If you don't own the latter maybe B&W will loan you theirs, which they use to assess cone breakup.

This is really one of the last things I'd worry about (along with speaker cables, power cables, and yada yada cables).

Get good speakers, deal with the listening room, get well recorded program material and then you can substitute in extra-spendy boxes for the well-engineered electronics boxes using double-blind testing.