Do equipment stands have an impact on electronics?


Mechanical grounding or isolation from vibration has been a hot topic as of late.  Many know from experience that footers, stands and other vibration technologies impact things that vibrate a lot like speakers, subs or even listening rooms (my recent experience with an "Energy room").  The question is does it have merit when it comes to electronics and if so why?  Are there plausible explanations for their effect on electronics or suggested measurement paradigms to document such an effect?
agear
Signal proceeding through a wire induces an electromagnetic field around it, and if that wire vibrates it affects the electromagnetic field. In turn an electromagnetic field induces a signal within it. In audio reproduction this induced signal is reproduced by the speakers.

It is ridiculous to think that only speakers are affected by isolation. I have tried countless isolation devices. The Stillpoints solution uses changing vertical vibration into horizontal vibrations which in tern are restricted and turned into heat. Star Sound Tech seeks to get vibrations within components to earth quickly thus undoing the effects of the vibrations.

Both work well with different effects. I have made my choice but you may differ.

I hate the effects of rubber, wood, with the possible exception of iron wood. I also dislike springs, whether actual springs, inner-tubes, like pole magnets, etc. All have a resonant frequency.

There is still the fact that vibrations in the air affect signal cable and speaker cables. Here I suspect my using all High Fidelity Cables with magnets. When an electromagnetic field hits a magnet, it goes off at right angles and thus induces no signal within the cables. Finemet and ferrous beads resist electromagnetic fields but, for me, also have adverse implications.

I have been in audio since 1961 and once thought I was close to realism. In the last five years, I realize that I was no where close. But my sound even a year ago thanks to a handful of brilliant guys has further improved. My quest to be able to think that a reproduced piano in another room is real, still is a quest.
agear OP
1,171 posts
10-20-2016 10:08pm
And you keep dodging without adding any novel data to the conversation. I suggest you encourage end users of your products to chime in. I like hearing from end users who have fiddled in this domain. So, back to the regularly scheduled programming.....

Dodging? I’ve done no such thing. Without adding novel data? Are you drunk? Stop trying to make a Federal case out of this. I don’t answer questions having to do with sources, how I develop things, how I test things, how I get my ideas, or in some cases the operational mechanisms of how certain things work. That would be stupid. That’s because they’re, you know, proprietary. Loose ships sink ships. I will, if I can, general technical questions or questions specific to my products.

For those interested I have quite a few technical papers on my web site.

See this page for the links to technical papers, including vibration isolation, the Clever Little Clock and even the Teleportation Tweak,

http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina6.htm

cheers

geoff kait
machina dynamica
we do artificial atoms right

randy-11
96 posts
10-20-2016 11:33pm
what makes you think brass is better than anything else?

Brass saxes are the metal of music BTW.


Actually brass is easy to fabricate and relatively cheap. That’s the reason brass is used in many musical instruments. Silver saxophones sound better, however. And CRYO'D brass or silver saxophones sound even better. So brass is the metal of inexpensive musical instruments. Hey, just like audiophile cones! Listen some time to Galway’s GOLD flute. Which may or may not be cryo’d.

Have a nice day

Every material and every part that I use in my system except for those that use a type of adhesive is cryo'd..well and the laser pickup. Some of these parts have been treated 5 times. Cryo treatment makes the material stress free and more directional which enhances signal flow especially to mechanical ground. I experencied these benefits first in real acoustic instruments using brass, steel and tungsten cobalt. Tom

Mr. Kait says - Actually brass is easy to fabricate and relatively cheap. That's the reason brass is used in many musical instruments. Silver saxophones sound better.


Brass is manmade. Not all brass is “relatively cheap” and definitely all brass does NOT sound or perform the same in ‘any’ application related to sound and audio. Our many years of experience manufacturing brass parts for the audio and musical instrument industries backs this statement.

The chemistry and materials used to make brass is critical to the end sonic. All brass used in Star Sound production is made in the USA and arrives with chemical certifications in order to assure performance. We could import less expensive brass and manufacturer a cone for five dollars however the performance and sonic result would give Star Sound and the Audio Point™ a very poor reputation.

Chemistry and grades of brass is just one of the many reasons a Selmer, Yanagisawa, Cecilio, etc horns vary in sonic.

I’ve heard and worked with musicians playing ‘both’ very expensive silver and brass horns but could not make a comparison as to which material sounds better simply because it would take the “same musician” playing “both” in order to arrive at that decision. Then of course you have to differentiate between brand names, years the models were built, reeds, etc in order to provide any opinion of merit.

The Selmer MK VI sax has been a long time favorite of mine in studios and on stage but in my opinion, we should ask a few professional horn players which is the preferred material for sonic instead of accepting the opinion of one who holds a degree in aerospace.

Robert

Star Sound