Do equipment stands have an impact on electronics?


Mechanical grounding or isolation from vibration has been a hot topic as of late.  Many know from experience that footers, stands and other vibration technologies impact things that vibrate a lot like speakers, subs or even listening rooms (my recent experience with an "Energy room").  The question is does it have merit when it comes to electronics and if so why?  Are there plausible explanations for their effect on electronics or suggested measurement paradigms to document such an effect?
agear
Geoff

I thought you knew that the refractive polarity angle steered away from the component was determined by the shear velocity of the material. Tom
theaudiotweak
1,385 posts
10-21-2016 9:24pm
Geoff

I thought you knew that the refractive polarity angle steered away from the component was determined by the shear velocity of the material. Tom

There you go with those big words, again. But I’m afraid this is simply another case of your making a wrong assumption. As fate would have it I was not using diamonds under a component. One imagine when the points of cones like audio points are pointed up the seismic shear forces are directed into the component more easily, eh?

I really enjoy this thread , among others with Geoff and Tom  . I actually look forward to checking them . : ) what i would enjoy seeing is your system Geoff . How come i can't  find a listing or pics anywhere or in virtual systems . I have read you are using a modded discman ?
Can you elaborate on your setup ..please without a cryptic comment ? i'm sure many are interested in your setup. How often does a teleportation tweek need to be reset or recharged ? 
Thanks 😬
 

Robert, the drum suspension system I referred to is called R.I.M.S., the letters standing for Resonance Isolation Mounting System. An L.A. studio drummer named Gauger invented and introduced them in 1980, and licensed the manufacturing rights first to DW (Drum Workshop), one of the most progressive drum companies around. R.I.M.S. revolutionized drum mounts, almost every company now using them or making their own version of the same principle. R.I.M.S. attach to the drumhead tensioning hoop rather than the drum shell, allowing the shell to freely vibrate, increasing it’s sustain (the length of time the shell "rings") considerably. A mount attached to the shell itself "chokes" the sound of the drum.

The term resonance in reference to a drum shell is in regards to the length of time it "rings", it’s sustain. But the nature of the construction of the shell also affects it’s resonance; thinner shells usually resonate longer and at a lower pitch than do thicker ones, the extra wood of thicker shells raising the shell’s resonant frequency (it’s "fundamental") and acting as a form of self-damping. The timbre of that resonance is a different matter, timbre being what civilians ;-) call "tone". Timbre is determined by the relative strength of the harmonics of the fundamental. Drums are not considered a "tuned" instrument (an exception being the tympani and Caribbean steel drums), the way guitar and bass are. That’s because drums produce so many overtones (not just harmonics, but intermediate notes) having as much strength as the fundamental itself, that the fundamental is hard to distinguish.

Drums used for recording often have damping applied to the heads, to change the sound of the drum towards the "tighter" sound you mentioned. Tighter in, ironically, having less ring, but in this case of the higher overtones only. The damping absorbs only the highest overtones, making the fundamental more audible. I saw studio drummer Jim Keltner (Traveling Wilbury’s, Ry Cooder, George Harrison, Randy Newman, hundreds of others) playing live on a sound stage in Burbank, and his DW’s rang so long the drum sound was a real mess---far too much sustain for my liking. The struck notes were not audible individually, each still resonating loudly as the next was played---one big, rumbly mess. The opposite of that is the sound Levon Helm of The Band is known for---"thumpy". Gene Krupa’s drums also sound thumpy on those recordings from the 1940’s, but that’s because plastic drum heads had not been invented yet. Plastic heads weren’t available until the late 50’s, and they rapidly replaced the calfskin used until then. Calf heads don’t need damping, as they already sound dead (pun intended ;-).


oleschool
466 posts
10-22-2016 2:20am
I really enjoy this thread , among others with Geoff and Tom . I actually look forward to checking them . : ) what i would enjoy seeing is your system Geoff . How come i can’t find a listing or pics anywhere or in virtual systems . I have read you are using a modded discman ?

Can you elaborate on your setup ..please without a cryptic comment ? i’m sure many are interested in your setup. How often does a teleportation tweek need to be reset or recharged ?
Thanks 😬

I listen mostly to a modded Portable Sony Walkman with vintage Sony Ultralight headphones. The mods include Codename Turquoise treatment, Dark Matter treatment, WA Quantum Chip for headphone cable, some PWB treatments of various kinds. All CDs in current rotation are treated in any number of ways, including but not limited to cryogenic treatment or home freezer, Dark Matter, Super Intelligent Chip, and extensive coloring with various color pens. I also use PWB treatments extensively for all rooms and some of my own products for all rooms (e.g., Flying Saucers for Windows and Flying Saucers for Unused Wall Outlets.

The Portable Walkman is isolated on a Woody the Woodpecker isolation stand with 8 lb of glass microbeads in a deep glass tray. For this particular stand I am using a thick glass plate directly on the bed of microbeads as the top plate. My commercial woodpecker iso stand varies considerably from this setup, which is kind of a test bed. Or bed of The entire iso stand is supported by NASA grade ceramic cones. The Walkman sits on two addition stages of isolation - (1) strained layer damper that employs a slab of aluminum and viscoelastic material and (2) a set of my Super Soft Springs for very lightweight components. I also listen to a Sony portable cassette player with same set up.

Just to to point out some advantages of such low mass minimalist systems: no house AC, no AC ground, no power cords, no interconnects, no speaker cables, no crossovers, no transformers and no fuses.

The Teleportation Tweak takes 20 seconds to do over the phone and is permanent. The exception is when the customer changes phones in which case the Teleportation Tweak would have to be redone. For customers with more than one phone, ideally all phones should be treated separately. The Teleportation Tweak improves both audio SQ and video picture quality.

geoff kait
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