anyone care to list the best sounding Class D amps?
Class D Technology
So I get the obvious strengths of Class D. Efficiency, power output & running cool which allows for small form factors. I also understand the weaknesses somewhat. 1. Non-linear & lots of distortion that needs to be cleaned up with an output filter.
So my question is, if it weren't for efficiency & power, would there be any reason to own a Class D amp? Do they beat Class A in any other categories that count for sound quality?
So my question is, if it weren't for efficiency & power, would there be any reason to own a Class D amp? Do they beat Class A in any other categories that count for sound quality?
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Non-linear & lots of distortion that needs to be cleaned up with an output filter.I don't understand what you mean by that. Class D is extremely linear. Class D modulator, converting voltage to duty cycle, resembles Delta-Sigma D/A converters (principle of operation is the same) that are extremely linear. Output filter, Zobel network, is only used to obtain average value and reduce amount of noise on the speaker wires (that is inaudible). Like with any amp - don't guess and just listen. I like sound of my small class D Rowland amp. I like imediacy, transients, liquid midrange, low noise floor and composure under loud passages (regulated power supply). The only problem I had initially was lower midrange. It was a little thin sounding. I replaced speaker cables with Acoustic Zen Satoris and lower midrange came back. Cello sounds like cello and I can hear "chestiness" in male voices. Perhaps the question is not whether class D is worse or better than class A (Jeff Rowland makes some wonderfull class D amps), but rather if it is better for you, for the money you can spend. Switching technology is very promising - just look at SACD - pretty much the same as class D. I agree with George that switching frequency should be increased, since 50-60kHz bandwidth limitation introduces around 20deg phase shift at 20kHz (causing wrong harmonics summing), but I'm not even sure I can hear such nuances. There are many highly praised amps that have similar bandwidth, I'm sure. |
georgelofi you are correct about switching frequency being teh key to even better Class D amps in the future. Yes the new Belcanto 600 monoblocks, they were the best of the Class D's I've heard so far, but still didn't convince me to go to the dark side yet. In the future when the switching frequency is up around 3-5mhz then the filtering can do it's job properly without it's effects influencing the audio band. The Belcanto 600's did a series of output filters to counter this, but it has it's own set of problems. The Technics are up to 1.5mhz but you pay for this $$$$$ http://www.technics.com/us/products/r1/se-r1.html#overview Cheers George |
I agree with George that switching frequency should be increased, since 50-60kHz bandwidth limitation introduces around 20deg phase shift at 20kHz (causing wrong harmonics summing), but I’m not even sure I can hear such nuances. There are many highly praised amps that have similar bandwidth, I’m sure. Switching frequencies are up around 600-800khz at the moment, except for that Technics above. The problem is the switching noise output filter has to handle the full power of the amp and can only be low order, otherwise it will burn out. And being low order it has an effect down into the audio band. If the switching frequency is 3-5MHz then it can do it’s job well away from the audio band without having phase, fr, ect limitations effects . Just look at the ringing artifacts in Stereophiles 1kzH square waves of Class D, they now test with a inline heavy filter to make this (ringing) disappear, that Audio Precission’s filter they use makes the test wave look clean, but it’s a con job as it’s done at very low power so it doesn’t burn out, in real use it would last a microsecond. I have asked JA to include both unfiltered (normal) and filtered square waves, just so readers can see the real deal. Read comments at the bottom of the page, no answer from him. http://www.stereophile.com/content/bel-canto-eone-ref600m-power-amplifier#G7miwIhm5pj5EDlK.97 Cheers George |
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