Using in ceiling surround, shall I upgrade?

I think this general question is related to this thread but feel free to move it not. I ask as general rule, what does one do the brand of front channel speakers you are using does not offer surrounds -or say you already have holes in the ceiling where prior owner used in ceilings -or where WAF will not allow for installation of onwalls. Is there any way to try and match timbre?

Kbuzz, you will have to make some concession. If its a larger company they may have a different line of speaker that offers in walls. Otherwise ask your dealer for a good compromise brand. If you are not dealing with a dealer then post your speakers and ask the community for suggestions. The way to handle it is that the architectural speakers of a brand should be timbre matched. Therefore if the free standing sound close to you then the in ceiling should be close.

Theo

Internetmin

Thanks for the post. I did not want to hijack the thread which was why i did not post more specific info. My situation is rather unique but in brief, i moved recently and bought a pair of ohm microwalsh talls on a whim to use in my small family room as a stereo pair. I liked them so much i plan to order an OHM center.

This family came with a set of in walls already in installed, and i wanted to keep the rear in ceiling surrounds (or replacements) as wifey is objecting to on walls. OHM does not make in walls Hence the post.

Internetmin

My front speakers are Thiel CS3.7

If for timbre matching, besides Thiel surround speakers (it doesn't convince me that it will be a big step upgrade based on the look of the built, unless someone can tell me otherwise), is there any particular suggestion for brands of in-ceiling or bipole speakers?

To tell more my comment on the issue, it is like the surround speakers are not as dynamic and powerful enough for some big action scene, even if I turn up the level for surround and rears, it doesn't help much. Hence this post.

Grandtech,

Your comment about the dynamics, looking up the theil model and my own experience with the Atlantics tell me that your surrounds are overmatched by a 12k pair of fronts. My suggestion is to go with a highly dynamic pair of in ceiling. Triad, Revel, B&W come to mind immediately. Your Atlantic tech are also likely only able to go down to 80hz, as most of their stuff crosses over at that point. You may be having some room response issues as a consequence. The only way to know is to do a room response graph for those speakers via the anthem. See where they are getting crossed over. It may be that they are getting crossed over at 120hz or higher and the sub may only be going up to 80. Thus, you might have a frequency gap. But look at the anthem post correction graph to see what's what. In fact, take the next step and post the graph on the AVS forum for the anthem AVM50/D2 forum and see what other opinions you get. While I certainly do think that it is a speaker matching issue, it may also be another issue related to the room. Again, I'm assuming you have property run ARC.