floor standing speakers for surrounds?

If you are using an Anthem with ARC, you'll get all the graphs for every speaker. If you are using Audyssey, you won't and you need to upgrade to the pro version (approx additional $750 if your processor supports it).

What crossover are you seeing for the surrounds? Are you manually overriding it?

My hunch (based on the bits of info here and there) is you have one of two things going on:

1) The crossover is off with your surrounds, giving you a dip or problem with the audio spectrum.

2) The placement of your surrounds is off. That can either be they are too far off-axis from your listening position or that they need to be remeasured for distance, etc. Are you using direct or dipoles? This is important because if you are using direct and your processor is assuming dipoles, you don't get the appropriate delay added to the direct radiating.

Any of that jar an idea or resonate with you?

The elite has advanced mcacc. After the room correction being done, i changed the speakers to the small setting. the speaker distance was all done by the receiver.

i am using direct speakers for my sides. also direct for the two rears. i did not see a setting for dipoles or direct.

I recently changed the crossover from 80 to 60... just to experiment with it... i did not notice much if anything.

maybe it is as good as it gets?

Change the crossover to 110. See how that works. Let the sub do more work. Check with pioneer or the manual on how to setup direct radiating speakers. That may or may not be an issue. Is your speaker setup relative to primary also at the proper angle? Is it between 90-120 degrees or so or is it more?

Ill give it a shot next movie thanks