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Do equipment stands have an impact on electronics?

Mechanical grounding or isolation from vibration has been a hot topic as of late.  Many know from experience that footers, stands and other vibration technologies impact things that vibrate a lot like speakers, subs or even listening rooms (my recent experience with an "Energy room").  The question is does it have merit when it comes to electronics and if so why?  Are there plausible explanations for their effect on electronics or suggested measurement paradigms to document such an effect?
agear
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geoffkait
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agear

geoffkait:No need for all the drama. Vibration control and vibration isolation is a VERY mature science. Not need for hystryonics. Here is a quick study page for vibration isolation from Kinetic Systems. Save the drama for yo mama.

http://www.kineticsystems.com/page306.html

to which Agear replied,

Not when applied to audio..

Huh? Kinetic Systems is the manufacturer of the Vibraplane, the biggest selling isolation stand for advanced audiophiles in the past 20 years. Hel-loo! Wake up and smell the coffee! None so blind that will not see.

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agear
Geoffkait: No need for all the drama. Vibration control and vibration isolation is a VERY mature science. Not need for hystryonics. Here is a quick study page for vibration isolation from Kinetic Systems.

To which agear replied,

"Not when applied to audio. The LIGO nerds had to optimize one narrow variable (measurement accuracy). That was their output variable. I am still waiting to hear from you or anyone else a corollary in audio. Furthermore, even if you could lock into a given finding, would blinded audio nerds or lay people know the difference? Probably not. You could easily do a blinded season at your local audio society of your magic Walkman versus a stock unit and see what if any differences could be discerned. We all know at this point you are too scared to do that experiment."

I use LIGO as an example of how mass on spring ISO systems can greatly reduce structural vibration. You can draw whatever knucklehead conclusions you wish. 

By calling them LIGO nerds and audio nerds one assumes you are jealous of those who actually studied physics in school or are more advanced in this hobby than you are, which judging from your own words isn't saying much.





randy-11
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LIGO has little to do with Hifi - it is just a buzz word the ignorant use to try and shill those who are also ignorant

I worked for some of the original researchers trying to detect gravity waves when I was an undergrad. physics major, and believe me, they have little tolerance for BS
agear OP
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I use LIGO as an example of how mass on spring ISO systems can greatly reduce structural vibration. You can draw whatever knucklehead conclusions you wish.

By calling them LIGO nerds and audio nerds one assumes you are jealous of those who actually studied physics in school or are more advanced in this hobby than you are, which judging from your own words isn't saying much.
I have done my fair share of physics (and not at Imagination U).  Do us a favor.  Get out of your jammies, put the keyboard down, and do something meaningful.  Recycling the same tired lines over and over is not proof of concept nor is illusions to adverbials and white papers and vintage Stereophile articles.  Hello?
agear OP
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Directed at industry types like me? Earth to agear - thanks for thinking of me as an industry type but I’m not sure where you guys got the idea that manufacturers are obliged to either provide data or to make claims for their products. You want to buy a new TV? You walk into the store, look at the picture quality of a few TVs, ones you can afford presumably, and pick the one with the best picture that you can afford. It's not rocket science. There is no data, no claims by manufacturers, no demands for measurements. Why shouldn’t the same be true for audio? My guess is certain people just like to argue. Or they just don’t trust their golden ears. Look within, grasshopper.
Again, is it just a profound lack of self-insight or mentation problems?  We will never know....

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