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The Palladian-A step beyond

The new cartridge from Acoustical Systems may finally be the LOMC to fully realise the theoretical advantages of the genus.
And convince those long-suffering audiophiles to whom the 'modern' MC presentation has been anathema to 'live sound'....that the realism of vintage LOMCs like the SPUs and FR-7 series has finally been recaptured 👀
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richardkrebs
422 posts
 
Flieb.  Yes I was talking about movement at the stylus end and I'm pretty sure that this is what Halcro meant as well. 
There is the very real risk of us all talking past each other here. 
To rephrase my original question to Halcro. Why would a MM cart have any difference in stylus movement than a MC? This assuming both are set up correctly in a compatible tone arm. There was no hidden meaning in my question. What happens at the other end of the stick is, of course, a whole different story. 

I could not agree with you more on your comments re resonant frequency.

cheers. 

fleib
1,124 posts
 

***Why would a MM cart have any difference in stylus movement than a MC?***

I don't think you can attribute any differences there to generator type, seems more like a function of stylus profile, contact area, groove height and that sort of thing. It might be nonproductive looking at it that way.

There's another traditional line of thought as to energy transfer and motor type and it has to do with the nature of the beast.  Because the coils are moving they transfer more energy and are more subject to returning energy. This kind of makes sense. The fixed coils in a MM are gigantic in comparison and you have a small magnet or two, wiggling.

One thing is for sure, MM's are much harder to load, but they're tunable. 

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halcro OP
2,664 posts
 
Fleib and Richard,
If we agree that the movement is the same at the stylus for both high and low compliance cartridges......wouldn't the greater movement at the end of a high-compliance cantilever cause an equally larger reaction (Newton) which the tonearm sees?
Wouldn't that then put greater stress into the arm?
No-one can explain by physics.....why it is claimed that low-compliance cartridges put greater stress into tonearms....🤔

richardkrebs
422 posts
 
Halcro

Low compliance carts are stiffer, so it takes more effort to deflect  the suspension when playing a record.
More energy in that has to be controlled by the arm.
 

Cheers 

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halcro OP
2,664 posts
 
Low compliance carts are stiffer, so it takes more effort to deflect the suspension when playing a record.

Hang on......
We've agreed that the deflection of the stylus at the groove is the same for high and low-compliance cartridges.
Which means that the end of the cantilever must move more with high-compliance and less with low-compliance.
Where does "effort" come into play in a physical sense?
I don't understand the term "effort" in a structural sense either?
Can you put it in an equation?
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