Yes, thanks Ralph, Merry X’s and Happy Holidays to all of you. Even the haters. I never get angry about this stuff. Really. I mostly just enjoy the challenge of explaining things to those who are clearly reluctant to learn. So this is my last comment for now:
As always, a believer (you) when challenged to describe a test he’s willing to take, finds a reason to avoid being tested at all. Ralph, the only analog source I have is a cassette deck, and I have an acoustic guitar. So you tell me exactly how to add gated hash noise while I capture my playing to tape in a way that challenges you to identify the noise, and I’ll send it to you. Or any other very specific and practical scenario you can describe. If you’re unable to describe any practical test I can give you (or others here) that lets you prove you can hear what you claim, I’ll be very disappointed in you (though not surprised).
But really, your claim is disingenuous on its face. All my Artifact Audibility test attempts to show is at what level below music a nasty sounding artifact can be heard. It has nothing to do with digital always adding disturbing artifacts, or whatever it is you believe. If that were even true, those artifacts would show up when recording and playing back a pure sine wave, or some other known source. So already your claim is easily proven false using basic audio test equipment. I should have posted this link earlier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM
Therefore, your criticism of my test is not based on logic, but rather on a denial of basic audio principles. You can’t hear stuff when it’s 80 dB down! And in most cases you can’t even hear it when it’s 40 dB down. If you can’t hear that nasty noise when it’s 40-60 dB below the music, then you can’t hear any of the other stuff you claim people hear that makes digital sound unappealing. I’m sure you realize this. Either that, or you’re engaging in magical thinking. So please let’s resolve this so you can prove your point. If I’m wrong I’ll gladly admit it. Heck, I need to know if I’m wrong! I doubt I am, but I’d like to know for sure.
As always, a believer (you) when challenged to describe a test he’s willing to take, finds a reason to avoid being tested at all. Ralph, the only analog source I have is a cassette deck, and I have an acoustic guitar. So you tell me exactly how to add gated hash noise while I capture my playing to tape in a way that challenges you to identify the noise, and I’ll send it to you. Or any other very specific and practical scenario you can describe. If you’re unable to describe any practical test I can give you (or others here) that lets you prove you can hear what you claim, I’ll be very disappointed in you (though not surprised).
But really, your claim is disingenuous on its face. All my Artifact Audibility test attempts to show is at what level below music a nasty sounding artifact can be heard. It has nothing to do with digital always adding disturbing artifacts, or whatever it is you believe. If that were even true, those artifacts would show up when recording and playing back a pure sine wave, or some other known source. So already your claim is easily proven false using basic audio test equipment. I should have posted this link earlier:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM
Therefore, your criticism of my test is not based on logic, but rather on a denial of basic audio principles. You can’t hear stuff when it’s 80 dB down! And in most cases you can’t even hear it when it’s 40 dB down. If you can’t hear that nasty noise when it’s 40-60 dB below the music, then you can’t hear any of the other stuff you claim people hear that makes digital sound unappealing. I’m sure you realize this. Either that, or you’re engaging in magical thinking. So please let’s resolve this so you can prove your point. If I’m wrong I’ll gladly admit it. Heck, I need to know if I’m wrong! I doubt I am, but I’d like to know for sure.