Environmental Potentials whole house surge protection, can I get your opinions?


I'd like to protect my whole house from surges rather than use individual units around the house.
The power on the NE is pretty good, but I know all it takes one bad zap. Have any of you installed this unit and do you think it works?
gdnrbob
gdnrbob said:
So, it seems the ground may be a place I should be inspecting more closely. As my house is almost 100 years old, is there any way to test a ground? Or, is there any way to add a newer/more effective ground?
Thanks Bob
When was the last time the electrical service was upgraded? Approximate year?

Yes the ground, Grounding Electrode to soil resistivity can be tested. Some commercial/industrial electrical contractors have the proper equipment to preform such a test. It is not uncommon though for an electrical contractor to hire a company that deals in Power Quality to preform the test. The Power Quality Company will preform the test and then supply the Electrical Contractor the test data results.

IEEE, just going from memory, recommends 5 ohms or less. 2 ohms or less is preferred....
If the Grounding Electrode to soil resistivity is greater than 5 ohms the Power Quality Company will make recommendations to the electrical contractor how to get a 5 ohm or less soil to grounding electrode resistance reading. It’s usually accomplished just by driving a new ground rod deeper into the earth.

Where you live in the US has a lot to do with soil resistivity. Just the changing of the 4 seasons can have an impact on the electrical service grounding electrode to earth soil resistance.
What part of the country do live in?
http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/

I would first hire an electrical contractor/electrician to check what you have now to see if it meets the bare minimum NEC code as well as the local governing body (AHJ) for the minimum required electrical service grounding system, (Grounding Electrode System) for an electrical service in your area. In some areas the standards may be set by the Utility Power Company in conjunction with the AHJ, (Authority Having Jurisdiction).

Worth noting, NEC says if the grounding electrode to earth resistance is greater than 25 ohms an additional earth driven ground rod shall be installed. That’s it, NEC is satisfied. No further testing is required... I have yet to hear of a residential electrical contractor that checks for earth resistance. To meet NEC code all they have to do is drive a supplemental ground rod.

Testing for soil resistivity.

http://www.esgroundingsolutions.com/what-is-soil-resistivity-testing/

Two different types of test equipment/methods.

http://www.fluke.com/fluke/iden/solutions/earthground/soil-resistivity-method

https://www.atecorp.com/products/aemc/3731
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Soil conductivity (resistance) is relevant for code requirements - that only address human safety. Grounding for appliance safety is why Ufer grounding (to exceed code requirements) is popular. Earthing for protection is an art.

Earth ground for protection involves conductivity and equipotential. For example, a ’whole house’ solution was properly earthed. They still suffered damage. A vein of graphite existed behind the house. Best path to earthborne charges was incoming on AC mains, ignored a service entrance earth ground, passed through household appliances, then out the back of that house into that conductive graphite vein.

Solution surrounded that house with a 2 AWG bare copper ground wire. Then single point earth ground was entirely beneath that house. Best equipotential eliminated future damage. Then a best connection to distant earthborne charges was outside around the house; not through it.

Other considerations. Earth electrode must be over 8 feet deep. If any are loose, then some event (maybe lightning) created that looseness if not enough electrodes were earthed. Always learn from mistakes.  Damage happens because a human made a mistake.  

In one FL case, lightning kept striking an outside wall. So they installed lightning rods. Lightning still struck that wall. Lightning (like other destructive surges) found a best path to earth via plumbing that connected to deeper limestone. Lightning rods were only earthed in sand. Solution was a longer electrode to make contact with that deeper and more conductive limestone. Then lightning stopped striking a bathroom wall.

Protectors are simple science. A ’whole house’ protector must be at least 50,000 amps to survive even direct lightning strikes (ie 20,000 amps). Earth ground (not a protector) does the protection.

Inspect a ground hardwire from the breaker box. If it goes up over the foundation and down to an earthing electrode, then it meets code. (It has low resistance and high impedance.) Surge protection compromised. That hardwire has excessive impedance (ie greater than 10 feet long), has sharp bends, and is not separated from non-grounding wires. Effective protection exists when that hardwire goes through a foundation and down to earth. Then it is shorter. No sharp bends means significantly lower impedance (not resistance). Is routed with more separation from other wires. Then a ’whole house’ protector has better earthing. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground.

Above is a ’secondary’ protection layer. Each layer is only defined by its earth ground - not by any protector. Also inspect your ’primary’ surge protection layer. Pictures (and not text) about half way down after the expression "more safety hazards" demonstrate what to inspect:
http://www.fpl-fraud.com/

Some examples demonstrate this ’art’ of protection. Equipotential and impedance apply. Protection is always about where hundreds of thousand of joules dissipate. A protector is only as effective as its earth ground.

I have yet to hear of a residential electrical contractor that checks for earth resistance.

No standard was defined to measure that resistance. A 25 ohm number is too subjective Rather than play games with local inspectors, electricians routinely earth two ground electrodes. Then nobody can argue about 10 ohms measured one way and 40 ohms measured some other hardware or method.


westom said:
Soil conductivity (resistance) is relevant for code requirements - that only address human safety. Grounding for appliance safety is why Ufer grounding (to exceed code requirements) is popular.

First you need to start with what is the intention of the National Electrical Code.

2014 NEC
Article 90
Introduction

90.1 Purpose.

(A) Practical Safeguarding. The purpose of the National Electrical Code is the practical safeguarding of persons and property from hazards arising from the use of electricity.

"and property".

Then you need to move onto 250.4 (A)(1)
Electrical System Grounding.
Electrical systems that are grounded shall be connected to earth in a manner that will limit the voltage imposed by, lightning, line surges, or unintentional contact with higher-voltage lines and that will stabilize the voltage to earth during normal operation.

IEEE

The IEEE Green Book also states that ‘field experience and theoretical studies have shown that arcing, restriking, or vibrating ground faults on ungrounded systems can, under certain conditions, produce surge voltages as high as six times normal. Neutral grounding is effective in reducing transient voltage buildup from such intermittent ground faults by reducing neutral displacement from ground potential and reducing destructive effectiveness of any high-frequency voltage oscillations following each arc initiation or restrike,’

https://www.mikeholt.com/mojonewsarchive/GB-HTML/HTML/NECArticle250Sections250.1-250.4~20020123.htm

Earth grounding for the protection of electronic equipment, Micro processors, Data Processing Centers, Others? What about the electrical equipment and appliances found in the home? What doesn’t have a Micro Processor in it today, or at least electronics?

Again, the IEEE Green/Emerald book recommends a ground resistance of 5 ohms or less.

I believe so does the NFPA.
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westom                                      22 posts               12-27-2016 12:48pm

I have yet to hear of a residential electrical contractor that checks for earth resistance.

No standard was defined to measure that resistance. A 25 ohm number is too subjective Rather than play games with local inspectors, electricians routinely earth two ground electrodes. Then nobody can argue about 10 ohms measured one way and 40 ohms measured some other hardware or method.

First my comment is part of the total response I gave to the question gdnrbob asked in a post.

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gdnrbob said:
So, it seems the ground may be a place I should be inspecting more closely. As my house is almost 100 years old, is there any way to test a ground? Or, is there any way to add a newer/more effective ground?
Thanks Bob
Does gdnrbob’s 100 year old house have a Concrete Encased Electrode (Ufer ground)? No.....

So what does gdnrbob possibly have for a Grounding Electrode System?
First it would help to know when, the year, the electrical service was last updated.
IF the house has a steel or copper domestic water line that is, at least 10ft in length, buried horizontally in the earth, that is a grounding electrode as per NEC. IF that is the case there is a very high probability it is supplemented by at least one 8ft ground rod. IF the water line is plastic then more than likely he has two 8ft ground rods, minimum, making up his grounding electrode system for the electrical service. The above would satisfy older NEC bare minimum requirements.
As always the AHJ has the final say.

westom said:
No standard was defined to measure that resistance.
Are you saying there is not a recognized, accepted, electrical industry standard for testing soil resistivity? I thought ANSI/IEEE recognized the testing equipment when used as directed by the manufacture, of the test equipment. Yes, the equipment test, to be credible, must be preformed by a qualified person trained on its’ use.

weston said:
Rather than play games with local inspectors, electricians routinely earth two ground electrodes.
Games? Which is cheaper for the Residential Electrical Contractor? Pay a certified Power Quality company to test the electrode soil resistance and produce a certified test report for the electrical inspector, and possibly the Utility Power Company’s inspector, or just drive an additional 5/8" X 8ft ground rod?

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In the 1968 NEC edition the "Concrete Encased Electrode" (Ufer ground) was first written into the code. AHJs (Authority Having Jurisdiction) could have made it mandatory if they wanted to. Maybe some did.

In NEC 2005 the language, wording, was changed making it mandatory for new construction.
Of course that doesn’t mean all States and or local AHJs adopted the 2005 NEC change. My State did but not my city’s AHJ. Just going from memory I think the AHJ adopted the mandatory change around the year of 2009. Probably was when the AHJ adopted the NEC 2008 code in January of 2009,(In part with deletions and amendments). I don’t remember for sure..... I do know in 2007 it was not mandatory in my city.
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