You were right about adding a sub.


I've had subs around the house, but used them mostly for home theater.

From time to time, some of you have encouraged me to use a sub in my 2 channel setup. Curiosity got the best of me over the Holidays and I hooked up a sub using speaker level connections and used the sub's crossover.

My speakers are Usher 6311 and my Integrated is an Anthem 225.

What a difference it made to not only the bass line, but cutting the lows increased the soundstage, improved detail, etc. I feel like I have new speakers, And the bug to try other speakers is gone.

Thanks for the tip- wish I would have tried it before now! For those of you that are tempted, it may be worth a try, it certainly was is my case. I'm using a Svs Sound Cylinder, fwiw. 

Regards,
gary

uncledemp
I appreciate everyone's comments. The Sound Cylinder sounds pretty good in the blend- but I'm still dialing it in.

My aging Mirage dual 8" sub sounds great in my bedroom system. I've been reading up on subs designed primarily for music and I'm likely to go for something to replace the Svs, and return it to my home theater setup.

Vandersteen and Rythmik are interesting to me. Of course Rel and Jl Audio are popular.

I like the option to cut the low end frequencies to my mains. I think I may be limited to speaker level connections to accomplish this, since my Integrated does not have an amp in option- but it does have pre-out jacks. 

Avsjerry- I like the opportunity of the Behringer - but it is way beyond my level of expertise.

There is probably a way to cut frequencies to my mains without using speaker level inputs. Once I get close to deciding on a model, I'll call and try to educate myself.

Such a great hobby! My girlfriend is getting more and more interested in audio and seems to increasingly enjoy music. 

Thanks again!
A great way to high-pass filter your mains is to install a single capacitor at the input of the power amp (or power amp section of an integrated). The value of the capacitor determines the corner frequency of the filter (3dB down point), and the roll-off rate will be 6dB/octave (1st order). The formula for frequency versus capacitor value can be found on the net, and includes the power amp's input impedance. 
Bdp24,

I assume the capacitor would be installed inside the Integrated, since my unit has no 'amplifier in' jacks. I do have pre out jacks, fwiw. 

Unfortunately, my modding skills are um...well... I don't have any! 

I do need to learn different ways to accomplish cutting the low frequencies from my mains so the subwoofer setup I buy does the trick. It's surprising to me how big a difference it makes to my speakers. I thought 225 wpc was plenty to power the main full range and then blend the sub at the bottom.

Currently, with speaker level connections and the sub crossed about 50-60, I feel like I have totally new speakers. Biggest change is increased detail, or at least the illusion. Either way, I'm happy with the improvement. 

Wish I had some of you guys wisdom and aptitude for audio- I sincerely appreciate your input, etc. 

Best Holiday wishes,
gary

Bondmap,

What a great feeling! I'm loving it but feel like the right sub would give me a little more mid bass definition and taughtness. 

I own a dspeaker sub processor that may help but it's still in my home theater setup. Can't use it with the speaker wire connections I'm using. I've owned Vandersteen 2ce sigs and think highly of the brand. The Vandersteen sub is on my list.

Thanks,
gary

uncledemp:

I hope I can ad something here.

What are your room dimensions? Is your room treated?

I own Usher speakers. I still have a pair of BE-718s...I replaced them with Tiny Dancer Mini One Diamonds.

My room is rather small, but pretty well treated, and everything positioned  (through hours & hours ) of listening. I use two Martin Logan Depth i.

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