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You were right about adding a sub.

I've had subs around the house, but used them mostly for home theater.

From time to time, some of you have encouraged me to use a sub in my 2 channel setup. Curiosity got the best of me over the Holidays and I hooked up a sub using speaker level connections and used the sub's crossover.

My speakers are Usher 6311 and my Integrated is an Anthem 225.

What a difference it made to not only the bass line, but cutting the lows increased the soundstage, improved detail, etc. I feel like I have new speakers, And the bug to try other speakers is gone.

Thanks for the tip- wish I would have tried it before now! For those of you that are tempted, it may be worth a try, it certainly was is my case. I'm using a Svs Sound Cylinder, fwiw. 

Regards,
gary

uncledemp
rbstehno
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I have owned many different subwoofers throughout the years. I like the rel theory of running the mains full and blend in the subs even if the mains are full range. I also use jim smiths and others recommendations on placement and settings of the subs. I use usher mini dancer 2 DMD speakers running full range. My dedicated treated room is 26'x16' with a 12' ceiling. My subs sound best near the front corners in front of the corner treatments and toe'd in quite a bit. 
Good luck
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bdp24
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Gary, the Rythmik F8 (dual 8" woofers) or FM8 (the same, but with a midrange x/o frequency for those wanting not just bass, but also midbass from the sub) at around $850 would be a great choice for your speakers.

As for high-filtering your mains, you could consider the First Watt B-4, a reasonably priced (Reno Hi-Fi sells it for a grand I believe) great sounding active x/o offering incredible flexibility in frequency (every 20Hz up to around 1250Hz iirc) and slope (1st/2nd/3rd/4th order-6/12/18/24dB per octave)! Nelson Pass builds it with discrete components, no IC's or OpAmps.

uncledemp OP
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Bdp24,

That's the Rythmik I'm interested in- thanks for the feedback. Seems to be a good fit for my needs. I own a dual 8" Mirage that sounds nice for music in my bedroom system. It blends nicely with some Silver Monitor Audio speakers.

I think it would give me many options going forward if I change speakers. I own Silverline Minuets that may mate well with it, too.

Thanks again,
gary

meerzistar
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That or at least split the signal in half at the outputs. Going through the sub to your main amplifier is unnecessary and often unfavorable. That way your straying from a truer signal coming downstream. You can avoid that simply by using neutral RCA y connections.  
uncledemp OP
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rbsteho,

I gain a lot of top end definition when I cut the low frequencies from the Ushers.

With your suggestion, I'll try running the speakers full range.

Did you try the speaker level route with your Ushers? I was surprised at the difference, due to the anthem's 225 wpc, but taking the lows away made a most noticeable difference.

Thanks for sharing your experience,
gary
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