I'm not sure what this "class A input stage" is. Input stages are almost always class A (would be stupid not to), but class D amp is pretty much one stage - a modulator + output transistors.I thought the Class A input stage is what voices the amplifier and keeps it from being a clone amp in a pretty box.
Class D Technology
So I get the obvious strengths of Class D. Efficiency, power output & running cool which allows for small form factors. I also understand the weaknesses somewhat. 1. Non-linear & lots of distortion that needs to be cleaned up with an output filter.
So my question is, if it weren't for efficiency & power, would there be any reason to own a Class D amp? Do they beat Class A in any other categories that count for sound quality?
So my question is, if it weren't for efficiency & power, would there be any reason to own a Class D amp? Do they beat Class A in any other categories that count for sound quality?
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Perhaps in traditional multistage amps. I'm not also sure what the "voicing" means. Would this imply that two different amps with the same Mosfet input stage are voiced exactly the same? As I said - a lot of hot air. Manufacturers of expensive gear have to come up with some exotic names, like "Analog Cell", in order to differentiate them from competition and justify high price. Icepower is self contained amp. It doesn't need additional input stage unless it serves a purpose (Common mode noise rejection, input impedance increase etc), or "voicing" is just a fancy name for added "coloring" of the sound (at the expense of transparency). |
Kijanki - Yes I meant voicing as a coloration to differentiate a boutique amp from a stock Ice Module. Some feel that adding a custom input stage and not using the stock power supply creates a superior sound to their ears...which I can't argue with. mapman14,180 posts01-03-2017 2:58pmI do not have "ice modules" . i have stated repeatedly I have BelCanto Ref1000m amps. These use ice modules but also custom input and power circuitry and the price and sound reflects that accordingly. |
Yes, sometimes there is additional circuitry to Icepower modules. For instance my small Rowland has additional instrumentation amp (THAT1200), that improves common mode noise rejection as well as increases standard 10k input impedance to 40k. Box is pretty indeed, but since it is solid billet aluminum chassis - board inside is acoustic resonance free. There is a purpose to that - but when manufacturer puts Mosfet stage in a plastic blue box, calls it fancy name "Analog Cell", describes it as class A with no feedback and inserts picture of the board with this blue module in their literature - then it makes me very suspicious. Not only that using "class A" is to pray on non-technical people, but also second statement is not true. There is practically no stage without feedback. Even resistor in the emitter (or source) of transistor is a form of the negative feedback. First stage might be outside of the global negative feedback, but calling it "no feedback" is again praying on the common believe that "no feedback" is a good thing. Because of all that I'm very suspicious about additional Mosfet stage used for the "voicing". We also have to assume, that B&O engineers, that are fanatic about sound, and Jeff Rowland neglected to properly "voice" it. Would people buy this amp, after finding in the sales literature, that the company just packaged inside standard inexpensive Icepower modules? Most likely not and that's whole reason for the "puffing". http://www.psaudio.com/stellar-m700-mono-amplifier/ |
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