Evaluating a system - what do you listen for?


I have been in this hobby a long time and my opinion of what I want to hear in reproduced music continues to evolve. Having owned many systems - and critically listened to many, many more - I am now looking for an overall sound that as accurately as possible captures the tone and tempo of the music with enough of a bass foundation to convincingly portray an orchestra at full tilt or club beats while still nailing the timbre of an upright bass. Decent portrayal of leading and trailing edges is nice, and a high end that’s fully present and balanced without stridency is a big plus. Detail’s good, but hyper detail without musical flow can be distracting. Airy treble and pinpoint or large soundstage are also nice to have, but if what’s coming out of the speakers doesn’t make me want to tap my toe or cry a little bit when a vocalist holds a note just so, then what’s the point? That’s what I’m looking for these days - what about you?
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Very interesting discussion. Thanks for the thread, @knownothing .

I am not going to go into a lot of detail with terms that don't have precise definitions; but I really like the sound of my system. The only thing that occasionally causes me to cringe is accentuation of sibilants. While I believe that they are in the recording for the most part , I was wondering if there are ways to tone them down without changing the overall reproduction to a great extent.
My hearing isnt isn't what it use to be but music will always be a window to the soul which is what it's all about ....enjoy

For evaluation purposes I like to listen to well recorded piano and flute.
For some reason flute, especially in the higher range, really shows off a system’s upper ability.
Well recorded piano music can also illustrate a system’s capability.
These are just starting points.
BTW: Not a big fan of the flute but they can really make your ears bleed in a system with problems.

Whomever knows a guy with a real good analogue recorder---even the reasonably priced Revox A77, plus some condenser microphones, arrange for him to make you a recording of live acoustic music, the event at which you will be present. Listen attentively to the sound and music the musicians and singer(s) are making, taking notes if you wish. From those tapes burn a CD/SACD (and an LP if you have the disposable income!), and use it to evaluate equipment. From being at the recording session, you have a good idea of what the music and sound should be, much more so than any professional CD/SACD/LP you have. The recording will most likely be far more alive and transparent sounding than almost all of them, having gone through none of the processing commercial product does---equalization, compression, added electronic reverb and echo, gating, etc.

I made such a recording, and have used it for years as source material with which to judge the sound quality of equipment. It was made by myself in a small bar on El Camino Real in Sunnyvale California, the band being a Jump/Blues septet comprised of drumset, bass, upright piano, guitar, tenor and baritone saxes, and singer. The bass and guitar were plugged into small amps, but contrary to the mistaken notion (notably by Stereophile founder and chief-tester J. Gordon Holt) that instruments employing amplification are not acoustic sources of sound, the sound produced by amplified instruments is indeed acoustic---you hear the sound produced by an amplified instrument directly through the air with your ears, it is not an electronic sound source. The sound of an electric guitar and bass, while different than that of acoustic ones, have their own signature characteristics. If you were at the recording, you have heard that sound for yourself.

I used to be tbg. In the last five years thanks to several manufactures, I have gone to realism that I never thought was possible. I had thought that I was hearing all that was in the recording. I was missing many of the instrument harmonics, much of the decay of notes in the hall or studio, and many noises of the performers breathing, changing positions on the strings that you probably would only hear were you as close as the mikes, but now my speakers vanish and the speaker end of my large listening room is replaced by the hall or studio and instruments appear where I never heard them. The old saw of hearing the piano in another room and knowing whether it is real or a recording is lost-everything is real.
In no particular order I thank Miguel Alvarez, Rick Schultz, Roger Paul, Audio Points, Star Sound Tech Rhythm racks and Platforms, Zilplex cups, Mr. Ikeda for the Kai cartridge and recording engineers for capturing more than they could have ever heard.