Comparing these CD players with my gear...


Hi folks, 

I'm always messing around with CD players. A longtime audio friend of mine says I have a CD fetish... well, he's probably right. In a medium that is slowly dying, I'm still spinning discs more than ever. I stream too, but there still something awesome about taking a CD or LP and placing it in/onto a machine to play the sweet music we all love. 

Anyway, in my latest jaunt for something new, I've put together my latest list of players that have caught my eye for one reason of another. My gear consists of a Creek 4330SE integrated amp and Vandersteen 2C speakers. Cables are DH Labs Q-10's and Air Matrix interconnects. 

So what are your thoughts/impressions/comments on the synergies of the following CD players and how they would sound with my gear. I'm most curious about the Naim, Cambridge Audio and Myryad. 

Naim CD3.5
Cambridge Audio 840c
Myryad MCD600
Cal Audio Labs Icon mkII Power Boss
Marantz CD6006 (or CD6005)
Rotel RCD-1072




jsbach1685

georgelofi

I was responding to this statement.

"I think you’ll find all the players mentioned use dac data textbook I/V stage and output stages, which are just opamps.I think you’ll find all the players mentioned use dac data textbook I/V stage and output stages, which are just opamps."

Just because the players use the same types of parts doesn't mean the analog sections will all sound the same. Different brands, different design, build quality, etc... It all makes a difference.

Just because the players use the same types of parts doesn’t mean the analog sections will all sound the same. Different brands, different design, build quality, etc... It all makes a difference.
To a small point, if you’ve work on and modded as many as I have they are very similar, only when you get into the esoteric stuff (non data sheet) like what I and others do with feedback free inplementation stacked AD844/discrete/transformer based I/V stages can you hear a real difference, as for the output buffers again very similar opamps used.

To give an example, even the mighty $20k Linn CD12 that I have here at the moment, just has PCM1704 data sheet text book opa627 as the I/V stage and again a opa627 as the output buffer. Just classic dac text book stuff.

Cheers george

"To a small point, if you’ve work on and modded as many as I have they are very similar, only when you get into the esoteric stuff (non data sheet) like what I and others do with feedback free inplementation stacked AD844/discrete/transformer based I/V stages can you hear a real difference, as for the output buffers again very similar opamps used."

I really don't believe in modding audio components unless there's a really good reason to. My personal opinion is to just buy the right component first. If you make a good choice, there's no reason to fool with it. As far as zero feedback designs that don't use opamps, there's really no need to debate the matter. Of course its a better way to go. Both my Wadia's, Ayre and Resolution Opus are all made this way. Players like that are clearly out of the OP's price range, so I didn't see the need to mention those types of designs.

"To give an example, even the mighty $20k Linn CD12 that I have here at the moment, just has PCM1704 data sheet text book opa627 as the I/V stage and again a opa627 as the output buffer. Just classic dac text book stuff."

From that point of view, maybe. But, as I've stated above, I think it better to look at a component in its entirety, and not just single out pieces. I can also use the Linn CD12 as an example. Its an extremely unique piece because the transport is made by Linn in house. If I remember correctly, its the only CD transport ever made outside an Asian country. I'm also pretty sure the CD12 was the only cd player that transport was ever used. So its really a one of a kind piece, which makes it difficult to compare with other players.    

Its an extremely unique piece because the transport is made by Linn in house.
See that where your wrong, just because they've glitzed it up and called it a poopoo engine while under those glitzy covers is a standard Philips unit. And to further this we a/b it at an audio society meeting of 30 members and used it's transport only into the dac section of my Cary 303/200 (that has my tripple stack AD844 I/V stage), and no one could tell the difference between the Linn transport and the Cary's own Matsushita transport.
 
To me the biggest differences between dac and cdp players comes down to which type of conversion process has been used, and the type of filtering used.

Cheers George