Agoners: Need Advice! Have 3K to spend on an Amp, what do I do with no way to audition?


Looking for a solid State Amp, something that will go for 30 years or more (My Last Amp), so I don't need high maintenance, with at least 200 WPC @ 8 ohm load.  SO many to choose from...I've narrowed my choices down to several brands, due to the consistency of great reviews; Krell, Pass Labs, Audio Research, McIntosh, Mark Levinson, Classe.  Now looking serious at a couple by Krell or Pass.  I love most types of music, classical, jazz, rock, punk, electronica, metal, but not Rap & Country.  I love great detail in my music, fast and bold but rich and  warm, played soft or loud with a big soundstage, love bass slam and crisp highs, too much midrange hurts my ears. Which amp does it all???  Wife has me limited to this, you know how that is :(...Please help me out here folks...I've been in this dilemma for a few years, it's time to make a decision and buy! 
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It is too bad you cannot listen to the different competitors since amplifier-speaker interaction can be important and is not always evident by looking at specs.  One thing I have found by listening is that with SS amps, the output stage has a significant effect on how they sound to me.  I almost always enjoy SS amplifiers with bi-polar output devices more than those using MOSFETs and that has remained constant at almost all price ranges up through Lamm's M1.2 Reference monoblocks at over $20K.  

Here are a couple of amps you may consider that should sound very good on your 802s;

I had pretty good luck with Cary's discontinued CAD 500MB monos, which you can maybe find used in your price range.  I believe these would not only provide the richness, warmth, and body you are looking for but would also provide exceptional control of the 802s.  Do not get their newer SA-500.1 amps, which in my system did not have the same magic.  Cary is still around to support repairs.  I have had good luck with McCormack amps, although they sound very clean and clear, and do not add much mid-bass emphasis that you may need for the rich, warm presentation you are desire.  You may even find a used DNA-500 in your price range.  Pretty much built like a tank and Steve McCormack is still upgrading his amps and providing outstanding customer support at SMc Audio.  Both of those amplifiers provide 500wpc into 8 ohms.

If you want small and cool-running, you might try the Class D offerings from DSonic and particularly the M3-1500M monos that are in your price range new - review here;
http://www.6moons.com/audioreviews/dsonic/1.html
The review provides some detailed impressions of how those amps sounded to the reviewer (which seem to correspond with exactly what you are looking for) and concludes,
" The strengths of the M2-1500M in all combinations were obvious - detail, ease of dynamics, soundstaging and warmth. These remained core. Were there weaknesses? If the amplifier displayed a failing, it was a touch warm and forgiving.   Perhaps the correct term might be "overly analog".... Some may interpret that as being a touch uncritical. Most will welcome it as acoustically natural.....The D-Sonic qualifies as true high end and deserves to be examined against higher tier components. It certainly competes against the best of its digital brethren and all tube and SS amps that have been in house."


jmcgrogan2,

I guess I'm trying to say, too much midrange is when vocals or the like in frequency sound so bright that I have to reduce the volume, probably the recording at fault. I'm a novice at this...

Why can't you audition some of the amps available?  I know we had a detailed discussion not so long ago on Audiogon about buyers that wanted to audition equipment before making an offer.  Many here felt it is a great burden (physically and financially) on sellers to act like they are a brick and mortar store and simply let people into their homes to only audition.

My policy, is the buyer must make a serious offer first and that offer accepted by me.  If they are picking the unit up physically from my home, then I would gladly connect the unit and let them hear it.  Which I have done many times and have never experienced any problems.  I've actually enjoyed the conversations and music the buyer brought to demo the units for sale.  But the offer must be made and accepted first.  They can pay in cash when they get to my house. 

I know.  If they change their mind after hearing the unit, I really can't do anything about that except make a negative review about them on Audiogon.  In my case, not once have buyer changed their minds after hearing the units. 

I'm selling two Mark Levinson amps at the moment.  A 23.5 and an ML3.  They both have been serviced by authorized Mark Levinson service center and the ML3 upgraded also.  My point is that they are extremely heavy and it is best if the buyer can physically pick the units up from my home.  I can ship, but that is more costs to the buyer.

In this case, I absolutely have no problem allowing the buyer to hear the unit at pickup after they have made the offer and I have accepted it.

If, on the other hand, the buyer is too far away to do this, then that is a difficulty.  In this case, the buyer should have a pretty good idea of the equipment and how they believe it sounds before purchase.  

I can't think of any electronics that last for 30 years without service or repair.  Equipment breaks and fails.  But, most equipment, especially amps can be repaired and serviced by knowledgeable technicians.  It's only if the parts are no longer available that one experiences problems.  But even in the case of my ML3, I still found quality parts for that unit (and I bought more, just in case).  So, you can pretty much be assured that you can get your amps serviced and repaired.

Digital equipment is another issue altogether.  In my opinion, I'm only going with quality name companies with good reputations that stand behind their equipment.

Not throwing any company under the bus but, two companies really disappointed me.  McIntosh and Theta.  McIntosh's MS300/MS750 music servers were nice units. But, McIntosh stopped servicing the units and sold the rights to another company.  Panurgy OEM services the units now, but the company that has the license rights to Gracenotes for the units went out of business and you cannot get the album art or music information on line for the units anymore.  That sucks. You have to physically type in the information yourself.  Theta's older DACS are not serviced or supported by Theta.  Due to some internal dispute with prior employees (I believe).

It doesn't matter to me.  If I buy a unit, I want that company to stand by their stuff.

There are still several quality Mark Levinson service centers around and quality technicians that can service Mark Levinson products.  Audio Research stands behind each and every unit they have every produced.  That says something.  I can still buy panels for my Martin Logan Monolith III speakers from Martin Logan.  That's impressive.

enjoy

Hope this helps.