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Very Bad purchase from upscale audio Acoustic Zen Adagio

This was not my first purchase from Kevin Deal at Upscale audio. I am a entry level audiophile. My PrimaLuna Dialogue Premium HP and Dialogue Premium Preamplifier have given many hours of enjoyment. I have purchased well over 1K in tubes from Kevin. This purchase took me over the 10K mark with Upscale Audio. I am not a rookie to audio or tube amplification. I have had a successful tube amp repair and design shop since 1993. 
My concern.
Here is the description of the Acoustic Zen Adagio from Upscale audio's website.
This pair of Adagio's from our demo room are also the last pair of Adagio's in our inventory. The Adagio is such a sweet sounding speaker and is perfect for those who really like to get inside the music. The pair we have are in the stunning Figure Red wood finish. The baffle style is the original (and better sounding) non-tapered baffle, as pictured. Price $2499.00 plus shipping
Ok.
I called Kevin and talked to him on the phone.  I asked him if he would entertain an offer. I told him that I had seen the same speakers offered on Audiogon and Audioasylum for considerably less.
He said I am a retail store and back my products. He also said this and I quote " Those people are just guys in their underwear scratching their asses." I am a store.
I trusted the description of the speakers and I trusted Kevin.
Total price. $2839.  $2499.00 plus $340.00 shipping to NC.
The speakers arrived and I couldn't wait to unpack them and hook them up. The packing was great. My anticipation was greater.
Left speaker Tweeter DOA. The same speaker had a shameful reject finish.  The lacquer was so clouded you can hardly see the wood figure. The back of the speaker was loaded with black specks under the lacquer. These speakers are seconds, rejects. I sent Kevin Deal 4 emails referring to the fact that this really was a bad deal.  It has been 3 days and no response.
On the other hand Robert Lee ( Owner of Acoustic Zen)  responded immediately to my email asking for help with the DOA Tweeter. I sent it off next day air to him and today responded that it is on it's way back  to me.
Somehow Kevin Deal's Train ran off the tracks so don't ask for your money back

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waltersalas
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I would ask for a full refund, including shipping costs. It is very good of you to try to make the best of this, but why should you have to bear the burden of this headache when you clearly did not get what you paid for?

Short of a full refund, if you were fortunate enough to pay through PayPal or a credit card, pursue a remedy that way. I had to do it once when a dealer failed to make good on a defective CD player. Those protections are there for a reason. If the dealer will not work with you, use them to get your money back and then let him arrange shipping of the defective speakers back to him. This should be his problem, not yours.

Just my two cents.
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cleeds
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bob_rodgers
I've dealt with Kevin a few times and he's always had a condescending attitude.
Sadly, this sort of 'tude is not uncommon in our world of hi-fi. When I encounter it, I turn on my heels and walk.
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kijanki
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If the finish greyed out because of friction in packing, then perhaps a little bit of furniture wax would restore color permanently. 

polk432
1,142 posts
 
Did you use pay pal with a credit card attached? If so your CC Co. makes the final decision. Escalate the matter with pay pal under not as described and they will put the sellers account into a negative and you should get a refund. Let them know you spoke or contacted the seller and you want nothing less than a full refund. Why fix an item if it wasn't your fault the item is not as described. The first thing he should have done was to fix what was wrong. no excuses, don't be weak or back off. It's your money. Best of luck.
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kalali
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If l had purchased $10K worth of electronics from a (relatively) small shop, the owner should know me by first name next time I called for a piece of gear. This is particularly the case with UA since every time I called - when they carried Cary line, they said I should talk to Kevin. I have a feeling one speaker was exposed to sun light and changed color over time. May be someone novice even attempted a repair and made it worse.
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