Most Important, Unloved Cable...


Ethernet. I used to say the power cord was the most unloved, but important cable. Now, I update that assessment to the Ethernet cable. Review work forthcoming. 

I can't wait to invite my newer friend who is an engineer who was involved with the construction of Fermilab, the National Accelerator Lab, to hear this! Previously he was an overt mocker; no longer. He decided to try comparing cables and had his mind changed. That's not uncommon, as many of you former skeptics know. :)

I had my biggest doubts about the Ethernet cable. But, I was wrong - SO wrong! I'm so happy I made the decision years ago that I would try things rather than simply flip a coin mentally and decide without experience. It has made all the difference in quality of systems and my enjoyment of them. Reminder; I settled the matter of efficacy of cables years before becoming a reviewer and with my own money, so my enthusiasm for them does not spring from reviewing. Reviewing has allowed me to more fully explore their potential.  

I find fascinating the cognitive dissonance that exists between the skeptical mind in regard to cables and the real world results which can be obtained with them. I'm still shaking my head at this result... profoundly unexpected results way beyond expectation. Anyone who would need an ABX for this should exit the hobby and take up gun shooting, because your hearing would be for crap.  
douglas_schroeder
First let me say that all of you are welcome to spend money on what ever makes you feel good, however, the science does not add up.  

What does an ethernet cable do? It caries TCP & UDP packets (which are 1s & 0s) from source to destination, these packets are built with headers & payload/data which is more 1s & 0s.  If packets dont make it to destination TCP handles retrys, if this did not work all of us would have problems with our connections to our network providers.

In a typical TCP/IP stack, error control is performed at multiple levels: Each Ethernet frame carries a CRC-32 checksum. Frames received with incorrect checksums are discarded by the receiver hardware. ... Packets with mismatching checksums are dropped within the network or at the receiver.

So if there are real network issues you get packet loss which in audio is a gap in sound because the DAC runs out of bits to process into sound.  Changing a ethernet cable COULD reduce packet loss, so could a better switch (or current firmware on the switch) but it will NOT change the 1s & 0s (which are what a DAC uses to create audio) to better 1s & 0s.  It also does not matter if the payload is audio or video so the same side effects occur, loss of packets ie 1s & 0s if a cable is bad or not the correct cable for the task.  How many of you stream Netflix or video via Apple TV, this is built on the same tech, for that matter everything on the internet is built on the same thing, TCP and 1s & 0s.  There is no such thing as a better 1 or 0 (a "better" cable) that enables a DAC to create a better sounding audio sound.  

I build & trouble shoot network and data storage issues for a living, if I use the proper cable rated for the bandwidth, ie 1g, 10g or 40g, I do the same for my home network where Stream digital 100% of the time, I build & test my own cables using CAT 5e because CAT 6 wires are so stiff and hard to work with and I only have a 1gb wired network.
The shielding alone will help in noise reduction. I think this is one area of improvement in my particular case. Best $15 I ever spent is all I know without a doubt! 
I received the Tera Grand double shielded cat7 cable on Saturday and it is really a nice sounding cable. I think I like it better than the Supra cat8 I was using before as the Tera Grand seems to be much more natural sounding while still having great detail. For $10-$15 depending on length from Amazon, it’s a great deal. Both the Supra and Tera Grand to me have been far better performing than the Audioquest Vodka I tried.

Thanks grannyring for the heads up!
azbrd: Thanks!!!  One of the most clearly written, intelligent posts I've seen on the subject of digital A/V information transmission.  You cannot make up science.  Those that are "hearing" a better quality sound (especially via ethernet/HDMI/USB) are unknowing victims of "expectation bias."  That is, if you spend money (especially a lot of money) on what you consider an "upgrade," you WILL hear better sound whether it actually exists or not.  

I recently bought a slightly used Oppo 105D disc player.  The seller threw in 5 Wireworld Oasis 1 meter RCA cables for 10 bucks.  The current version of the Oasis one meter cable sells for $110.00 each on eBay.  I usually use Monoprice RCA connects.  Used a couple of the Oasis cables to run from the Oppo's Sabre DAC outs to my Pre-Amp.  Sounded freakin' awesome...just like the Monoprice connects.  Had I spent spent $220.00 on those two Wireworld RCA cables I'm sure it would have sounded even better.  See what I mean??
Azbrd and Dynaquest4, note that the effects (or at least the potential effects) that I described in my previous post have absolutely nothing to do with proper or improper communication of 1s and 0s.

May I suggest a simple experiment that you may find to be informative: Tune a portable battery powered AM radio to an unused frequency, with the volume control set at a position that you would normally use. Bring it close to an unshielded ethernet cable on your LAN, while the cable is conducting traffic. You may be surprised at what you hear. Then please re-read my previous post.

If you have seen many of my posts in other threads at this forum, you will realize that I am with you in believing that benefits allegedly provided by **some** controversial tweaks or other products are likely the result of either expectation bias, experimental methodology that is not adequately thorough, or failure to recognize and control extraneous variables. Not in this case, however.

Regards,
-- Al