Has anyone had experiences good or bad with speaker isolation or isolation in general ?


hi
i have been enjoying buying and listening to hifi for some 35 years now and have seen many items come and go.I have also been interested in the audio cable discussions and i agree that cables do make a difference how much of a difference is a very individual, and a system dependent situation. There has been nothing that has got me so excited and improved the sound of my system that has ever made me want to really share it with fellow audiophiles until i started to try various isolation products.With so much choice from affordable to very expensive i found the hole subject very confusing and i did not know where to start. After trying lots of various products all shapes and sizes with very different results i decided to read reviews which is something i do not usually do to get some advise.I read a review on the Townshend audio seismic podiums they are isolation platforms that go under your speakers .This company is very famous for isolation ideas and have been around some 50 years based here in the UK they also had a factory in the USA back in the 1980s. I contacted Nick at Emporium hifi  and he agreed to install a pair for me so i could have a listen. My speakers are sound-lab dynastats which i use in quite a small room but with the adjustments give a nice sound. After installing the podiums we both sat down with jaws hitting the floor these podium things completely transformed the sound of my system to absolute perfection. After all this time trying various products under my equipment i have now isolated my speakers and the sound quality is exactly what i believe we all are chasing, my sound-labs are now transparent no more bass problems i have just got one big 3D sound stage the dynastats are now very open with deeper much better bass everything is perfect. I now believe isolating your loudspeakers is the first port of call i was so impressed by the Townshend audio seismic products i now sell them as i have never come across anything that has given my system such a great upgrade , the sound is the same as before but now its just so much better its playing deeper bass but tighter much more resolution and no boom , the midrange is so much more human sounding realistic and spacious with the top end so refined and perfect , is anyone using podiums and had the same experiences i would love to hear from you thank you john 
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So Kenny, are you going to get the Seismic Bars for your main speakers as well?! I’m relieved the problem wasn’t with the OB/Dipole Subs themselves (I saw your recent posts about this subject on the AudioCircle GR Research Forum), as I recommended them to you ;-).

I’m planning on getting some of the Seismic Pods myself, for under my own speakers, OB/Dipole Subs, turntable, and SACD player. If that pleases me, maybe for my tube pre and power amps as well. All it takes is money! I just bought (haven’t even received them yet) a pair of speakers I had been hoping to one day find, and have temporarily depleted my hi-fi fund.

hi bdp24

would you like to email me direct please regarding your situation i can help you the same way i did kenny, johnhannant2016@hotmail.com thank you, please feel free to talk to Kenny about hes experience with me  regards john
Bdp24,

I'm not sure about my main speakers for the Bars, because I have no room to the side of the speakers for an extended pod. And, both of my speakers are bordering walkways. When I first placed the subs on the Bars, and I wobbled them around on the Bars like jello. I thought this was hilarious at the moment!!! A sub weighs 118 lbs without the Symposium platform, so it wiggling around as I pushed lightly was weird, indeed! I could not possibly have my main speakers in the way of dogs, kids, and the wife like that. - LOL

Instead, I'm seeing my next step, besides stabilizing my rack, to add isolation to my amps. Any suggestions, including pods and besides the pods? See my system pic for advice.
Kenny

Thanks John, I’ll do that when I return from my trip next week down to SoCal to get the rest of my stuff and haul it up here to Vancouver.

Kenny, the individual Seismic Pods can be used in sets of three rather than four, as long as their combined weight capacity is sufficient for the piece place on them. That plus not having to pay for the Seismic Bar or Platform makes them significantly cheaper.

There is a new isolation product I just learned of that may provide some competition to the Townshend---IsoAcoustics Gaia (for speakers) and Iso-Puck (for components). How they compare remains to be seen. Other than the rather expensive electron microscope isolation tables from Newport and MinusK (over $2000), the only other isolators effective down to a very low frequency I’m aware of are 1- roller bearings, such as those made by Symposium Acoustics (New York) and Ingress Engineering (Canada). They provide a lot of isolation for their modest price ($85-$199 per set of three), but only in the lateral/horizontal plane, not the vertical, in which they are couplers. You therefore need to use in conjunction with them 2- springs of appropriate rating (such as those offered by Audiogoner Geoff Kait), which provide isolation in the vertical plane. The combination of the two makes for very effective isolation down to low single-digit frequencies, around 3Hz.

Oh, I’ve already taken a look at your system pics Kenny, back when you contacted me about the OB/Dipole Sub. Very, very nice!---Eric.

Eric,

I have been conjuring up a number of solutions for my mono blocks that may include the isolation pods underneath. What my dealer sometimes uses at shows, is Shun Mook diamond resonators below, mpingo discs on top of transformers, and the tube resonators. I like the Shun Mook stuff, and have heard a buddy's system incorporating an assault of their products. These really helped to bring out the most of his system and really fine-tuned the room. Many, think this stuff is weird, yours truly as well, but it works. Albeit, there's a price to pay for it. In my situation, I'm now contemplating between the pods or resonators under my amps.

Thanks, for the recommendation of the Iso-Pucks, I'll check them out as well as the other products.

I have to stop buying tweaks after isolating my amps, because I have to purchase a new line stage as this is a needed final component for my current system.
Kenny