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Isolation footers for amps

I'm looking for advice/recommendations for isolation footers for my amp -- an Audio Research D300 (solid state). Currently I have it mounted on a free-standing 4" thick maple block, with spiked-tipped brass footers anchoring the base to the carpet on top of a basement (cement) floor. Would I obtain any additional sonic benefits by placing after-market isolation devices between the amp and the maple stand? I should add here that I'm not looking to spend a great deal of money on this... something more in the range of $100-200. Options in roughly that range I've found on line include Audio Prism Isobearings, Herbie's Tender Footers, and Mapleshape's brass footers. My (perhaps imperfect) understanding is that the first two are meant to isolate a component from vibrations in the room (including those from other components), while the third is supposed to help 'drain" vibrations from the component in question itself, thereby minimizing their transference to the audio chain..

I'd welcome advice from fellow Audiogoners more experienced than I on the extent to which these devices confer audible sonic improvements and, if so, which ones they'd recommend. Thanks

Michael
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geoffkait
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there are two reasons cones are usually sold in sets of 3. one is that the flat top surfaces of three cones determine a (flat) plane under the component whereas four cones can be a little bit wiggly due to imperfect flatness of the underside of the component. the second reason is that 3 cones almost always sound better than 4.. Flipping the cones over to tips up position won’t solve the problem of 4 cones since tips should always point down.


Lak - I always separate maple plates using DH Cones, as well as use DH Cones under component AND under the plate. If budget permits I use Supers, but if a more cost effective solution is required Large DH Cones work very well, and the Small DH Cones are not chopped liver. It goes without saying some springs should be part of the equation.

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toddverrone
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Just to double check my understanding, wouldn't cones and spikes be coupling devices, not isolation?
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geoffkait
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I suspect minimizing the area where seismic vibration can be transmitted to the component to tiny points AND using very stiff materials to resist bending forces) for the cones are good for isolation, especially when used in conjunction with "real isolation" devices like springs, as I mentioned in my last post. In addition, I’ve always maintained DH Cones or other cones should be used under components that are placed on isolation stands as well as under the isolation stand itself. So, it’s probably accurate to say cones are coupling devices AND isolation devices, no? They're TWO, two mints in one! Click! Click!
wolf_garcia
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I use Vibrapods under the feet of my little SEP amp that dwells in the middle of my rack (put here so I could stare at it without leaning over as much…I’m old)…raises it up for more air, allows room for the spades I use for my 2 RELs (cables joined together inside the largish AQ spades) and makes me feel better.
david12
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Footers are getting insanely expensive, for those of us in the current "mid fi" zone of a $30000 to $50000 system. I just re read that, $50000, Mid Fi!! That's the world we seem to be living in though. If you are in that zone, then say, Stillpoint Ultras, become difficult to justify.

 My remedy, go second hand, it seems an ideal area to consider second hand. How do most footers wear out?

 I agree that Herbie's are great, sensible products at a sensible price. If you are going for Stillpoints, then the original version are an excellent choice. I compared them with my one set of three Ultras and yes, the latter were better, but not massively so.

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