Need suggestions please! Electrical noise in my system and it's driving me crazy!


So I have been battling with an electrical noise in my home since I moved in over a year ago. I've had two electricians check it out and have done hours of trouble shooting myself. 

I'm getting a hum or a buzz from anything with a transformer and a buzz through my speakers. Standard driver speakers and my Maggies. The house was built ten years ago and has everything up to code. Underground electrical lines. 2 ground rods outside the house. Just added a ground to all the copper plumbing and gas lines. I have a 200 amp panel in the house and a 100 amp panel in the garage. 

I have a Furman IT Reference 15 power conditioner and it's not doing jack. It's actually humming too. As far as trouble shooting I've mixed and matched equipment, speaker, and cables to eliminate that factor, I've also turned every breaker off one by one to find if it's something in the house that's dirtying up the electrical but even when I only had the one breaker that powered me system on, the noise was still there. 

I'm going crazy because my relaxing time is sitting and listening to my music in a dead silent room with a dead silent background and I no longer have that anymore. I can hear the buz, hum, and even a high pitch noise and it's ruining my hobby. Both electricians I've had in the house have no clue and and think I'm nuts anyway. 

Has anyone had an issue like this before? Could you fix it? How did you fix it? Please help! I'm about ready to sell all my equipment because it's annoying to listen to. 

Thanks,
Brian
gearheadmac
jea48,
The main rod was installed when the house was built. It was installed as the main ground for the home. However as you suspected, it is within a few feet of the main service panel and the Phone and CATV service is all there as well. The main rod is grounded with a large solid wire, 8 or possibly 6 awg. I ran new leads for the phone, CATV within the exterior boxes as well as hard wiring it directly to the main rod. The results were the same. The (((hum))) was present until I removed the coax from the system. 

N


nutty
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jea48,
The main rod was installed when the house was built. It was installed as the main ground for the home. However as you suspected, it is within a few feet of the main service panel and the Phone and CATV service is all there as well. The main rod is grounded with a large solid wire, 8 or possibly 6 awg. I ran new leads for the phone, CATV within the exterior boxes as well as hard wiring it directly to the main rod. The results were the same. The (((hum))) was present until I removed the coax from the system.


jea48,
By re-grounding- I removed the old grounding connectors, (both phone and CATV) at the grounding rod and at the exterior (outside) cable junction box. I Cleaned the stake with a wire wheel, (to remove rust or oxidation) and reinstalled new 12 awg solid ground wire and connectors.

I still had the (((hum))). With the system on and the volumn at a reasonable level, I disconnected the coax from the cable box and the (((hum))) disappeared.

nutty,

But did you clean the connection on the ground rod, the ground rod clamp, and the solid #6awg copper ground wire for the electrical service? If not how do you know the connection was not corroded? You want the best possible connection you can get/make to the #6 copper ground wire. The other end of the #6 wire is terminated on the neutral/ground bar in the main electrical service panel. The neutral/ground bar is where all the equipment grounding conductors, wires, are connected/terminated.
(Assuming the main disconnect breaker for the electrical service is mounted in the electrical panel)

What you want, need, is zero resistance, (as close to zero as possible), continuity, between the safety equipment "U" shaped ground contact, (of the wall receptacle your audio video/equipment is plugged into), and the CATV coax cable shield/"F" connector that connects to the CATV receiver box.

Instead of connecting the ground wires, for the phone line and CATV coax cable, to the ground rod you should have connected them to the #6 ground wire for the electrical service.
You could use one of these to connect the two wires to the #6 wire. Install it above grade so it can be inspected. Clean the area on the #6 wire with sand paper where you will be installing the ground termination device.
http://www.gordonelectricsupply.com/index~text~5979096~path~product~part~5979096~ds~dept~process~sea...

If you are still living at the same house I would recommend you re-terminate the phone and CATV ground wires. Pick up an Intersystem Bonding Termination as shown in the link above.
You could also use a couple of split bolts instead. See my earlier post for a link.
Though the Intersystem Bonding Termination meets NEC code.

Jim

Edit to my post above.

When I spoke about cleaning the connection of the electrical service’s #6 copper ground wire at the ground rod I should have mentioned with extreme caution. There could be a lethal difference of potential, voltage, between the disconnected ground wire (the Grounding Electrode Conductor) and the ground rod (Electrode) as well from the #6 ground wire to the soil you are contacting with your knees or any other part of your body contacting the earth. Especially if the soil and or grass is moist/wet.

Jim

jea48
Jim,
For your guidance, I shut down the main breaker located in the main box before any of the connections were repaired...All new connectors and new solid 12 awg ground wires were routed from the CATV/Phone junction boxes.

All CATV/Phone junction boxes have separate ground wires and all lead to the main 6-8 awg main ground wire. I cleaned the main rod and the main ground wire on all sides with a wire wheel using a cordless drill and installed a new main rod clamp. 

N
Update on my problem. 

I had two electricians at the house with no help. Did most everything from this post with no luck. I tried a UPS system to see if completely regenerating the AC would help... NEVER EVER hook your system to a UPS. It makes everything worse. 

I finally fixed the issue with buying a Granite Audio Ground Zero. It seriously fixed everything and gave the lowest noise floor I've ever heard from my system. It took me a while to find the right impedance match, but I was jumping up and down in compete bliss after I heard silence. So the whole thing was a ground loop/ground issue. I also realized I have a noisy tube in my preamp that I could hear after I hooked everything up. I still want to figure out why my entire house has a ground loop and get it fixed. But at least I know what the issue is. I seriously listened to music for 48 hours straight after the noise was gone. 

Thanks for everyone's input. I learned a lot from this post!

Brian