Most Important, Unloved Cable...


Ethernet. I used to say the power cord was the most unloved, but important cable. Now, I update that assessment to the Ethernet cable. Review work forthcoming. 

I can't wait to invite my newer friend who is an engineer who was involved with the construction of Fermilab, the National Accelerator Lab, to hear this! Previously he was an overt mocker; no longer. He decided to try comparing cables and had his mind changed. That's not uncommon, as many of you former skeptics know. :)

I had my biggest doubts about the Ethernet cable. But, I was wrong - SO wrong! I'm so happy I made the decision years ago that I would try things rather than simply flip a coin mentally and decide without experience. It has made all the difference in quality of systems and my enjoyment of them. Reminder; I settled the matter of efficacy of cables years before becoming a reviewer and with my own money, so my enthusiasm for them does not spring from reviewing. Reviewing has allowed me to more fully explore their potential.  

I find fascinating the cognitive dissonance that exists between the skeptical mind in regard to cables and the real world results which can be obtained with them. I'm still shaking my head at this result... profoundly unexpected results way beyond expectation. Anyone who would need an ABX for this should exit the hobby and take up gun shooting, because your hearing would be for crap.  
douglas_schroeder
@dynaquest14   

The larger rims do help with cornering. This is rather useless on an SUV. In the end, your brother will just be more likely to have a rougher ride, more expensive tires and a bent rim the next time he hits a pothole!

I have large AMG rims on my big lumbering Mercedes GL350 diesel truck and I totally agree it is a silly idea. Already had a rim bent...ouch!
jinjuku0
It’s not a double blind test.
As I noted here pages and pages back, that’s exactly why the results of your test would not really be valid.

I don’t think there’s much value for most audiophiles to conduct proper blind testing. But a test that doesn’t control bias has no value at all to anyone other than the actual listener himself.

In any event, it's clear from the many recent deletions in this thread that if you seek to promote your test challenge, you'll have to find another place to do it.
The point behind the offer, and it's an honest offer, is to simply show that people don't have as much faith in their ears as they think they do or would like others to believe. 

I'm ok with that outcome. It's a data point in and of itself and that data is certainly valid. Out of a count of 52 people that I've seen directly state large delta in Ethernet cabling SQ I have 0 takers. That forms a picture that any reasonable and prudent person can form for themselves.

On the typical response of scientifically invalid. My suggested evaluation rig closely mirrors the evaluation process that people use to come to the conclusion of SQ differences. If their opinion is good in that case then it will hold water with the same people when done with my proposed setup.






jinjuku
The point behind the offer, and it’s an honest offer, is to simply show that people don’t have as much faith in their ears as they think they do or would like others to believe.

>>>>>>We we also know that people’s hearing is frequently not as good as they think it is or claim it to be. We also know that people’s systems are frequently not as good as they think it is or as good they claim them to be. So what else is new?

I’m ok with that outcome. It’s a data point in and of itself and that data is certainly valid. Out of a count of 52 people that I’ve seen directly state large delta in Ethernet cabling SQ I have 0 takers. That forms a picture that any reasonable and prudent person can form for themselves.

>>>>>The data point is, however, not (rpt not) valid IF the person is unable to hear differences that are actually there OR if the test system is either not (rpt not) resolving enough or has errors in it. That’s kind of the whole point why negative results should be thrown out. If negative results meant anything every pseudo skeptic in town would be crowing that this or that controversial tweak failed his little controlled blind test. Follow?

On the typical response of scientifically invalid. My suggested evaluation rig closely mirrors the evaluation process that people use to come to the conclusion of SQ differences. If their opinion is good in that case then it will hold water with the same people when done with my proposed setup.

>>>>I suppose you never got the memo that skeptics and pseudo skeptics never actually get positive results for these sorts of things. Something to do with the reverse expectation bias or some other psychological issue. Besides if they did get positive results how could they face their friends? 😫





jinjuku
The point behind the offer, and it's an honest offer, is to simply show that people don't have as much faith in their ears as they think they do or would like others to believe. 
Your offer was no offer at all, which is why the moderators have deleted every reference to it. The offer has proven nothing.

My suggested evaluation rig closely mirrors the evaluation process that people use to come to the conclusion of SQ
No, your proposal wasn't even close to a proper evaluation, because it didn't account for expectation bias by the listener, or the person conducting the "test." That is why it didn't represent a valid listening test.