Lifters ForGetting Cables Off The Floor, Worth It Or Snake Oil


  •  I'm looking at some porcelain cable lifters to get some power and speaker cable up off the floor.  Does raising the cables off the floor really make a difference? It's going to be about 200 bucks for 10 of them. Thanks.  
zar
Everything in the room is a passive radiator and is at the mercy of its own geometric shape and material makeup.

A table which may have a glass top and rests on round wooden legs will have a different influence on the sound in a room versus the the same glass top on square wooden legs...All of this has to do with the velocity of these materials and the fact that they have different boundary layer shapes that interact with each other. All these different materials and shapes that touch reflect shear waves back and forth. So while you have only 2 materials you will have many different wave polarities and speeds determined by the dimensions and shapes and where the point source originates. All of these furniture pieces have multiple speeds even when made of only one material.  Springs will not stop this from happening because the wave front is compressive and then becomes shear which cannot be isolated in solid materials. It still is a passive radiator at all frequencies. Material choice, interactive shapes, proximity to other boundaries and the fact that they are grounded or not determines their sound and influence in an audio room. Mechanical grounding is the best method for the reduction of interfering energy. Other methods only serve to increase its time span . Tom

Tom, don’t be such a big isolation denier. Not only is vibration isolation enjoying its 25 year anniversary for audiophiles, the whole isolation phenomenon has resulted in the introduction of spectacularly effective devices, what with active isolation, two stage isolation, magnetic levitation and so forth. How many audiophiles do you think employ some isolation device or another, 50,000? Come on, don't be such a fuddy duddy. Join the isolation revolution! 🍾 If you think a deprogrammer might be helpful I’ll see if I can arrange for one.🤖
Geoff

The problem is you lumping everything under the umbrella covering term ...isolation. Not much can be isolated if anything especially when it comes to energy running thru solids..The solutions to the problems must be looked for.. outside the confines of the term "isolation". The simple term "isolation" limits the whole process of the understanding and reduction of interfering energy.  Tom

Tom, it’s actually you who can’t keep the argument straight. I am not (rpt not) lumping everything together. Far from it. Did you conveniently forget? I have always argued that both isolation and some combination of damping and draining of energy away from the system are important. It’s you who is lumping everything together by dismissing or ignoring isolation and putting all your ducks in the grounding/coupling bucket. If LIGO had blinders on like you do they couldn’t have been able to observe gravity waves. Come on over to the good guys. You bought into the whole Michael Green "Let the vibrations free to roam around the room" silliness long enough. Enough is enough. You’ve been a good soldier. You can come out now. The war is over. 🎉
You advocate blunt force solutions such as springs and damping which blinds you from looking and understanding how energy runs and then returns thru solids and their intersecting  boundaries.  Keep looking.
Tom