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Cardas: Cross vs. Reference and Clear

Anyone out there prefer the old Cardas Cross line to the Reference line (Neutral Ref, Golden Presence, Golden Ref) or Clear?  I read that some preferred Cross to Golden Cross because Cross had bigger soundstaging and dynamics, while Golden Cross was more laid back/reserved, even if Gold Cross was more refined.  

Similarly, Clear has been disliked by some of the faithful for stepping too far away from the traditional Cardas house sound.  In fact, with Clear Reflection, Clear Beyond, and perhaps Cygnus (the newest entry to lineup as of this writing), it seems that Cardas has reincorporated more of the warmth, or romance, of their older cables.
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garebear
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........there are some here you are '' self processed '' know it all's. This member has not even listened to the new line of Cardas Clear  which really are good cables in certain systems. This person continues to give the same old ( bad ) advice instead of just shutting up and not trolling cable threads and or take the time to listen to the new line in order to give someone advice that is more specific and more helpful as opposed to ;  '' Cardas never sounded good in my system '' Never liked Vandersteen speakers, but I don't just throw that in on very speaker thread. The guy is a real tool here      
carmenc
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+1 @garebear .  It's totally why I don't come here that often anymore.  Moved on to other sites where at least they know what the hell they're talking about or they don't pretend so.  Best.....
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ctsooner
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I"m not the biggest Cardas fan.  I like their new top of line. I don't remember the name, but I heard it a few weeks ago and was impressed. The irony is that Cardas supplies custom cables to many of the cable manufacturers in the world, lol.    George is a great marketer.  

Some cables I just can't stand as they tip the highs way too much for my tastes, but some folks love them.  We all hear differently.  I'm a Vandersteen fan since listening to his newest designs with carbon fiber tweeters.  I have told Richard that I didn't love them in the past. I never 'got' them.  This is why I audition as much as I can, whenever I can.  Tastes mature over time and products change over time.  
tzh21y
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lol.  So many are listening to Cardas and do not even know it.  lol
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ctsooner
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tzh, many of us know it, we just don't discuss it too often.  I made a post last year bout how many of the cables companies are using their raw cable that is made for them by Cardas.  Just because Cardas is making their cables, it doesn't mean they are similar.  I used to work with some smaller cable companies here in New England who actually pulled the wire for Kimber, Cardas and a few others.  Everything is made to the end companies own specs.
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