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Magico S5 Speaker - SET UP ADVICE PLEASE - Tow-In - Etc.

Any Magico Owners or Dealers or Folks or anyone that may have some basic advice, ideas or feedback from hearing or seeing in a friends, dealers system or owned older version of Magico or something like or anything really that can help me? How are yours or theirs set up? The smallest moves makes huge changes and I am coming from speakers that are so very different so any and all feedback would so welcomed.

I CAN EMAIL YOU PICS of Room / Set up / Etc  fsmthjack at YAH00

THANK YOU

BACKGROUND INFO:

ROOM:                         24 x 14 with cathedral ceilings 
MUSIC:                        Good mix - no hard metal / large orchestra and the like
LOUDNESS:                normal levels - just loud enough to sound best
SPEAKERS                  Magico S5 Speakers
AMP:                            Pass Labs X350.5 Amp
SOURCE:                     Bricasti M1SE DAC
TRANSPORT:               mircoRendu 1.4 w/Full suite of Uptone Audio products
CABLES                       HiDiamond Full Loom 
CONDITIONER            HiDiamond HDX2
SUBWOOFERS           (2) Sumiko S.9 Subs (hoping not needed with new Magico's) 

Thanks guys - I am kind of lost here and any help or feedback to get me heading in the right directions would be so appreciated.







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Yes.  The black wire would be soldered to the wrap-around piece having the little teeth in it (the part of the plug that is closest to the lower left of the photo I provided).  The small circle that is further forward and is centered in the middle, which in a normal RCA cable would be used for the signal connection, should be left unconnected.

Also, as you most likely already realize, since you are using two subs the red and yellow wires from each sub would BOTH be connected to the amp's positive output terminal for the corresponding channel.  In other words, the red and yellow wires from the sub on the left would connect to the amp's + output terminal for the left channel, and the red and yellow wires from the sub on the right would connect to the amp's + output terminal for the right channel.  The RCA plug to which the black wire from the left sub is connected would plug into the amp's RCA input for the left channel, and the RCA plug to which the black wire from the right sub is connected would plug into the amp's RCA input for the right channel.

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Thanks - I took all the sub cables for both suns and matched them and spliced them together- red with red - yellow with yellow and black to back and made into one cable and then attached nice Cardas spades so all are one - and nice and easy to hook to speaker terminals - is that ok?
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If by "spliced them together" you mean that the red wire from one sub is electrically connected to the red wire from the other sub, and the yellow wire from one sub is electrically connected to the yellow wire from the other sub, that would be wrong.

That would result in both subs reproducing an identical monophonic signal representing the low frequency content of the sum of the two channels, rather than the left sub reproducing the low frequency content of the left channel signal, and the right sub reproducing the low frequency content of the right channel signal. So you wouldn’t be gaining most of the advantage of having two subs.

But if you just mean that they are physically bundled together, and none of the wires are electrically connected to each other, that would be ok. Or, alternatively, you could electrically connect left sub red to left sub yellow, and connect that combination to the amp’s left channel +, while connecting right sub red to right sub yellow, and connecting that combination to the amp’s right channel +. With the RCA plugs that are connected to the black wires plugged in as I described in my previous post.

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Yes I took both Reds and assumed that meant both go to right channel and the two wires were then put into a single spade to easier to deal with install - I figured that is the same as apply both via bare wire to the same channel and makes install - unstall easier then wrapping each wire around each speaker terminal - that was annoying and what I did at first and did the same for yellows and backs?? Should I have mixed the yellow and red rather than combining red with red and yellow with yellow. It's so easy to mess this stuff up ???
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Should I have mixed the yellow and red rather than combining red with red and yellow with yellow?
Yes.

Connecting red and yellow to different channels is necessary when only one sub is being used. But it defeats a lot of the benefit that using two subs can provide, because the subs would no longer be able to reproduce low frequency information that differs between the two channels.

So as I indicated in my previous post...
...electrically connect left sub red to left sub yellow, and connect that combination to the amp’s left channel +, while connecting right sub red to right sub yellow, and connecting that combination to the amp’s right channel +.
And yes, properly connecting a sub or subs can be tricky, as different situations (one sub vs. two; balanced amp vs. single-ended amp; monoblocks vs. stereo amp, etc.) can call for different approaches.

Best regards,
-- Al


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