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New Yggdrasil - First (and second) Impressions

Okay, so I’ve finally (on order over 2 months) received my Schiit Yggdrasil. The unit arrived in exactly perfect condition (i.e. well packaged).

Upon first (and second) listening through all sources/inputs, I would need a stethoscope to discern any difference among my current components and connectivity. I also cannot detect any difference using the phase inversion button.

I suppose the aforementioned is a testament to how good my current system (before/without Yggy) already sounds. :)

I can easily A-B test because the Yggy is hooked in via balanced and my other components are also hooked directly to amp via RCA or USB.

Also, obviously I have NOT let the unit "burn in" for days because I just got it, however, it has come to full operational temperature after being powered on continuously over 24 hours.

System configuration: (Yggdrasil > XLR > Musical Fidelity M6si integrated amplifier > Golden Ear Triton Reference speakers )
all cables blue jeans cables "best" offering

Emotiva ERC-3 CD player > AES/EBU > Yggdrasil
Oppo UDP-205 blue ray player > coax > Yggdrasil
Samsung SMT-C5320 cable box > optical > Yggdrasil
Gateway NV79 Windows 10 64-bit computer > USB > Yggdrasil

I’ll be patient, but if there are any suggestions to "try" in order to hear *some* audible difference, that would be great. Appreciate any feedback you have.

Thanks.
gdhal
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gdhal OP
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I'm not the one saying there is no difference between the Oppo and Schitt - you are.

@chayro 

Not true.

What I'm reporting is that I do not *hear* a difference.

By virtue of this thread, I have sought the input of others to provide opinions and facts as to what I could or should do to hear an audible difference (and with the assumption my ears and other audio gear are capable).
chayro
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You don't hear a difference and and you're asking others what you should be hearing.  OK, I understand perfectly.  Thank you. 
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gdhal OP
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You don't hear a difference and and you're asking others what you should be hearing. OK, I understand perfectly. Thank you.

@chayro 

You "play" with words, however, incorrectly once again.
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bcgator
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I couldn't hear any difference in dacs up to $2500, through perfectly respectable speakers, electronics and cables.  I tried, it just didn't happen.   So I'm not the least bit surprised that you're not hearing it either between the Oppo and Schiit.   Might things "change" over the next month or so, sure, but you'll never know if it's the placebo effect and your mind trying to justify the expenditure.  So you have two choices - if the money means nothing and you really love just collecting gear, keep both.  I own 4 sets of speakers, so you wouldn't be alone there.  Or, if you can find something better to do with the $2K - home improvements, weekend getaway, funding a philanthropic endeavor, whatever - return the Schiit and find yourself holding $2K you'd already mentally said goodbye to and do something else with the money.     But it's a safe bet that if you haven't already had your "wow" moment, it's not going to happen.
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shadorne
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I recall when the Benchmark DAC1 came out. I could hear a significant difference between the DAC and other gear but a friend of mine could not. It was on my system so I think I had an advantage being familiar with the sound. Subsequently he got a hearing aid and I felt very bad for him as he loves music. I just hope my ears don’t go too fast and I can still enjoy the sound!

Another thing I have found is that if you run things through the same preamp then to a certain extent much of the benefits of a higher grade DAC are completely lost. A lot of the A+ sound is from the lower noise power supply and higher quality analog output stage in an A+ DAC - so the same chip on a Class B product may not sound as good as that on an A+.

My Benchmark DAC3 can output about 18 volts!!! A far cry from 1 to 2 volts that most consumer grade devices put out. So as you can imagine, connecting this DAC to a preamp that is limited to 1 or 2 volts is seriously compromising the major benefits of a Class A+ device.
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