Has anyone made the jump to $uper High end and were disappointed?


I'm talking $50,000 and higher amps, speakers, cablesetc. I know there is excellent sounding gear from $100 to infinity (much is system dependent, room, etc). However, just curious if someone made the leap and deep down realize the "expected" sound quality jump was not as much as the price jump. Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to make that jump. However, looking at another forum's thread about price point of diminishing returns got me wondering if anyone had buyers remorse. It's not easy to just "flip" a super high priced component. 
aberyclark
Almost all systems are being created by trial and error. It will never create a system what will be the most effective on all parts togheter. Pure on the fact that you cannot say why the stage and sound what comes out of your sytem is what you hear.

So we go back to where it starts. And that is music. For 100% sure you need an audio system what can reveal all the information of the recording. And even filled in the right way into the space of your room.

This never can be created by collecting any system by trial and error? How big do you think the chance is that this system owns all the parts of sound? And second it needs to be displayed as it is recorded.

We communicate a lot with many different specialists in different parts of sound&vision. When we visit new clienst often they created most things just by their own.

This proofs that people have no idea how complex sound is. And second how many parts there are you need to look after. I always say: each fault is your system is one too many.

Each mistake you make will influence different parts. That is why trial and error is extremely ineffective.

The way we work you need a lot less money to create a certain level. Tru-Fi proofs that audio created by properties makes the influence of each single part so much more effective.

This way each parts will create more quality and more properties of these parts will be used.

For example: A loudspeaker who can create a stunning 3D holographic stage and a exeptional level in layers in sound.

Most amps are 2D, like most sources have a low level in diversity in sound. So most products will not even be able to use the full potential of this loudspeaker.

This we hear and see all the time over and over again. Based on the fact that the trail and error sytems are founded on pure gambling.

When you go on this way, you can spend as much as you want. It will always be very ineffetive. That is why audio audio needs a mindset to create a much higher level in effectness.

The word highend is worth nothing. Because each single expensive audio product does not say you anything of the properties it really owns. And second it does not garantee you anything in terms of quality and endresult.

Audio is all about music. And music is all about emotion. When a system is not able to reveal all the emotion of a recording and all the details it will not make any person happy and satisfied over a long period of time.

That is why many expensive systems we hear at shows are not that impressive. Based on the fact that they all miss essential properties of sound. They cannot reveal these parts of a recording.



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I guess the short answer to the initial question would " every one who has gone that direction has been disappointed." 

Jim 
the dealer of the month.........not sure which month that was exactly.....
With respect to FIDELITY, there certainly IS a glass ceiling, and it is the recording. One may be able to improve the sound of a recording, to make it sound better than it really is, but it is logically impossible to be more faithful to a recording than the recording itself. Thus, with respect to FIDELITY, mind you, the asymptote metaphor is undeniable.

sqlsavior
With respect to FIDELITY, there certainly IS a glass ceiling, and it is the recording. One may be able to improve the sound of a recording, to make it sound better than it really is, but it is logically impossible to be more faithful to a recording than the recording itself.

>>>>>Sorry, but the recording is not (rpt not) part of the system. Super expensive high end systems includes the speakers, electronics and cabling, only. The recording is simply the MEANS to ascertain the SQ of the given system. Of course, you don’t want to play a BAD recording if you wish to show off what your system can do or judge the SQ. Give me a break!! Even the OP doesn’t include the recording in his definition of $uper high end systems. It’s why reviewers and many of us use recordings we’re familiar with to judge the effectiveness of a new cable, new interconnects, new tweak or the entire system. The recording is obviously INDEPENDENT of the system. The recording is actually just a TOOL for judging the SQ of a system or part of the system.

What I’m obviously referring to when I say THERE’S NO GLASS CEILING are those things you generally don’t see at shows - system burn-in for ALL electronics, speakers and cable, vibration isolation, room acoustics solutions, cryogenics, treatment of CDs, and the myriad of, you know, devices, tweaks and all the clever ideas that audiophiles are so fond of, that audiophiles ORIGINATED. Cables in the right direction, fuses in the right direction, suspended cables, Mpingo discs, Intelligent Chips, what have you. So, in fact the quest for Audio Nirvana is never ending. Unless you run out of ideas.

geoff kait
machina dynamica
advanced audio concepts