gdhal,
I really don't visit the AVS Forum too often (except to view their annual coverage of the hdtv shootout) so I'm not familiar with most of the discussions there. But I have read numerous professional reviews on both OLED and QLED models, heard the comments from A/V store employees, friends and family members and many a/v store customers that are strangers to me who have all compared the Samsung QLED and LG/Sony OLED 4K HDR hdtvs in a store setting. I've also watched the AVS coverage on approximately the last 8 Value Electronics yearly hdtv shootout videos on You Tube and listened to the panelists (consisting of professional A/V reviewers and calibrators) discuss their rankings,test results and general comments. There's typically a Samsung hdtv in the competition; the initial shootouts had plasma contenders and more recent shootouts usually had a QLED model.
You've kind of caught me by surprise by your comments since, of all the feedback I've received from those listed in the paragraph above, you are literally the first person I've encountered that hasn't noticed a stark distinction between the pq of these 2 technologies and preferred the OLED sets. The only pro comments I can recall hearing about the Samsung QLED hdtvs was that the off axis viewing angle wasn't as bad as expected and they cost less than the OLED hdtvs. These same individuals expressed many more pro comments about the OLED hdtvs, using various superlatives that would generally translate as different forms of 'wow!". The common cons I recall hearing were comments such as "it's too expensive" and "let's wait til the price comes down".
My surprise stems from your response to this obvious contrast in pq between these hdtvs being so different from all these other individuals and my own reactions. As if you're comparing a Lexus to a Chevy Malibu and claiming the cars are so similar you're having a hard time deciding which car you like best and just ignoring the large quality and price differences.
Maintaining that the Samsung QLED and LG/Sony OLED 65" 4K HDR hdtvs are somewhat similar is plainly and simply a false equivalency. You have the right to your own opinions but not to your own facts.
You may want to watch the 2016 and 17 Value Electronics HDTV shootouts below to get a better understanding of the professionals viewpoints on these hdtvs and their underlying different technologies.that result in their pq differences.
2016: www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLw0ypM4Zvo016:
2017: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHdqjtuE03Y
My main point to you in my recent posts is that you're misrepresenting the difference between QLED and OLED by minimizing the differences between them. For example, these shootouts entail about 100 A/V industry professionals rating each hdtv on a 1-10 point system (10 is best)in 9 important performance areas. These scores are then averaged to determine the winner. The LG OLED won this shootout for 2016 with the Samsung winning 2nd place. However, the OLED outscored the QLED in each of the 9 categories, interestingly including the "High ambient light performance" category (performance in a bright room). A Sony LED/LCD actually won this category with the OLED 2nd and the QLED 3rd.
Even given the above evidence that the LG/Sony OLEDs thoroughly outperform the Samsung QLED according to about 100 A/V experts, you continue to spread inaccurate information such as the difference is like splitting hairs and that the OLED hdtvs perform poorly in bright rooms.
I have no vested interest or bias in which hdtv is proclaimed the best each year, other than staying current with the latest hdtv developments, since I don't own any of the shootout contenders in the past 2 yrs -I own a Panasonic 65" VT60 plasma that was an earlier winner of a shootout in 2013 or 2014. You, OTOH, do have a vested interest and perhaps bias since you own one of the recent shootout contenders, the Samsung QLED. I'll leave it up to the readers of this thread to determine if that's influencing your comments.
As I stated previously, I believe your Samsung QLED is a very good hdtv that you seem very pleased with. However, the OLED has been judged by A/V experts to perform better in at least 9 important areas. Please don't pretend otherwise and continue to spread misinformation.
Thanks,
Tim
I really don't visit the AVS Forum too often (except to view their annual coverage of the hdtv shootout) so I'm not familiar with most of the discussions there. But I have read numerous professional reviews on both OLED and QLED models, heard the comments from A/V store employees, friends and family members and many a/v store customers that are strangers to me who have all compared the Samsung QLED and LG/Sony OLED 4K HDR hdtvs in a store setting. I've also watched the AVS coverage on approximately the last 8 Value Electronics yearly hdtv shootout videos on You Tube and listened to the panelists (consisting of professional A/V reviewers and calibrators) discuss their rankings,test results and general comments. There's typically a Samsung hdtv in the competition; the initial shootouts had plasma contenders and more recent shootouts usually had a QLED model.
You've kind of caught me by surprise by your comments since, of all the feedback I've received from those listed in the paragraph above, you are literally the first person I've encountered that hasn't noticed a stark distinction between the pq of these 2 technologies and preferred the OLED sets. The only pro comments I can recall hearing about the Samsung QLED hdtvs was that the off axis viewing angle wasn't as bad as expected and they cost less than the OLED hdtvs. These same individuals expressed many more pro comments about the OLED hdtvs, using various superlatives that would generally translate as different forms of 'wow!". The common cons I recall hearing were comments such as "it's too expensive" and "let's wait til the price comes down".
My surprise stems from your response to this obvious contrast in pq between these hdtvs being so different from all these other individuals and my own reactions. As if you're comparing a Lexus to a Chevy Malibu and claiming the cars are so similar you're having a hard time deciding which car you like best and just ignoring the large quality and price differences.
Maintaining that the Samsung QLED and LG/Sony OLED 65" 4K HDR hdtvs are somewhat similar is plainly and simply a false equivalency. You have the right to your own opinions but not to your own facts.
You may want to watch the 2016 and 17 Value Electronics HDTV shootouts below to get a better understanding of the professionals viewpoints on these hdtvs and their underlying different technologies.that result in their pq differences.
2016: www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLw0ypM4Zvo016:
2017: www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHdqjtuE03Y
My main point to you in my recent posts is that you're misrepresenting the difference between QLED and OLED by minimizing the differences between them. For example, these shootouts entail about 100 A/V industry professionals rating each hdtv on a 1-10 point system (10 is best)in 9 important performance areas. These scores are then averaged to determine the winner. The LG OLED won this shootout for 2016 with the Samsung winning 2nd place. However, the OLED outscored the QLED in each of the 9 categories, interestingly including the "High ambient light performance" category (performance in a bright room). A Sony LED/LCD actually won this category with the OLED 2nd and the QLED 3rd.
Even given the above evidence that the LG/Sony OLEDs thoroughly outperform the Samsung QLED according to about 100 A/V experts, you continue to spread inaccurate information such as the difference is like splitting hairs and that the OLED hdtvs perform poorly in bright rooms.
I have no vested interest or bias in which hdtv is proclaimed the best each year, other than staying current with the latest hdtv developments, since I don't own any of the shootout contenders in the past 2 yrs -I own a Panasonic 65" VT60 plasma that was an earlier winner of a shootout in 2013 or 2014. You, OTOH, do have a vested interest and perhaps bias since you own one of the recent shootout contenders, the Samsung QLED. I'll leave it up to the readers of this thread to determine if that's influencing your comments.
As I stated previously, I believe your Samsung QLED is a very good hdtv that you seem very pleased with. However, the OLED has been judged by A/V experts to perform better in at least 9 important areas. Please don't pretend otherwise and continue to spread misinformation.
Thanks,
Tim
