Vienna Die Muzick flagship speakers


Looks like the new flagship speaker from Vienna Acoustics are going on sale in North America in September or October
for $27K. If I interpret correctly the blurb found at:
http://www.sumikoaudio.net/va/prod_themusic.htm
they seem to be almost like single driver speaker with multi-driver extensions. a flat midrange driver covers 7 octaves from about 100Hz to 20Khz. If I understand correctly, the flat driver is expected to exhibit a pistonic movement, which in turn is designed to eliminate phase distortion caused by uneven excursion/timing between the rim and the center of the driver. The bass goes down to 18Hz through 3 10 inch drivers in a separate enclosure; if these bass drivers are similar to those found in the Mahlers and Strausses, they are also flat pistonic drivers. At the top there is a Mirada supertweeter extending to 100K.

I have heard that final production units will be shown/heard for the 1st time both at SEDIA and RMAF in September and October in Denver in the Sumiko/Soundings Suites. I won't attend SEDIA, but will be at RMAF.

I heard 2nd hand very favorable remarks about them from industry insiders that heard prototypes at CES and the past Montreal show. Has anyone heard these speakers already?
please post your findings here.

And if you were asking, the answer is a very sad NO. . . my wife won't let me buy them! G.
guidocorona
I can believe that the bass response is in the 20hz range after a couple of listens.

I wouldn't get hung up about toe-in. These guys know what they're doing with set up.

Dave
For some more observations on the Vienna/Rowland room, including -- Die Muzick speakers -- at the RMAF 2008 show, see my post today at:
http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?aamps&1216693488&openmine&zzGuidocorona&4&5#Guidocorona
If anyone is interested, PFO has just posted the first part of my review of Vienna Die Muzik at:

http://positive-feedback.com/Issue59/vienna.htm

This first article is mostly a technical discussion of the speaker. When the 2nd part is ready, it will discuss my findings on Die Muzik driven by a few different amps.

Best, G.
Wow, that was a great read, and 91db efficient. I am a little confused about one of the the advertised specifications, 50KHZ frequency, since the review model is using a Murata Piezo-electric super-tweeter.

The article states "Wolff explains that, while Murata remains one of the most reputable suppliers of this technology today, Peter Gansterer decided to create an even more suitable driver for its flagship product." The posted specifications are for the Murata installed super tweeter and not the new OEM tweeter that will go into production models. Just curious if the production models with the updated tweeter will have the same extended high frequency.

The speaker is no doubt a bargain for what you get at the advertised price, compared to speakers costing a lot more.They are cleaverly priced just below the B&W Nautilus 800 Diamonds and weigh 100 pounds less each.

Ciao,
Audioquest4life
Thank you AudioQuest4Life, The word "Murata" in the specs at the bottom of the review article is incorrect. I should have said something like "Vienna proprietary 0.5" super-tweeter" instead... Unfortunately, having concentrated on the article for well over 100 hours, I missed my own inaccuracy during proofing. The 2nd part of the article will be corrected.

The original Murata supertweeter used in my unit has been measured by Murata to operate up to 100,000Hz. However, it is my understanding that the measuring devices used by VA measure up to 50,000Hz only, hence the new proprietary VA supertweeter is conservatively rated at 50Khz at this time. This does not mean however that the VA supertweeter is out of necessity a "child of a lesser god".

On the contrary, the Murata part, being piezo-electric, cannot be attenuated, or in other words, is largely insensitive to volume control.... Thankfully we can't hear it... but my cat apparently does, and often tells me about it.

Conversely, the new VA ring-type or anular super tweeter is fully attenuatable. This means at least in theory that any side bands created by the interaction of super-high frequencies with sounds in the audible range may have more "natural" characteristics. But until such time that my units were updated with the new driver, I will not know if the difference between the two is audible or purely theoretical... or for audiophilic kitties! For the time being I stick to Igor Stravinsky's formalism, and I'll continue to judge the musical tree by its (humanly) audible fruits. G.