Wilson Audio Haters


I've always wondered why there are so many people out there, that more than any other speaker manufacturer, really hate the Wilson line. I own Maxx 2's and also a pair of Watt Puppys. They are IMHO quite wonderful.

Why does Wilson get so much thrashing?

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I just happened to run across this thread on December 31st, 2017. I spent almost an hour reading most of the comments, especially those from the Holy One of Bo. I don’t know why I read most of the 70 posts from Bo1972 as he kept saying the same thing over and over and over and over again... and over.

There was a bunch of promises of things that would happen in 2017, such as:
“You have no idea what we created and what we do. Most things we will never post or share. I can garantee you that it will change the world in audio in 2017.”
“2017 will be the year we share it with manufacturers and customers. We have done it with many people all ready. But now we will make it public as well. “
“We will invite many people in 2017. Everyone is welcome in our world. We will never disclude any person. We create it to make other people want to buy more audio. “
“The difference where we are compared to the rest is galaxies away. 2017 will be the year we will share it, soon you will hear from it as I told before.”

Some statistics of his posts:
The word “garantee” was misspelled 14 times.
“True-Fi” was written 59 times.
The word “proof” was found 25 times in his post.

In search of his proofs, “garantees”, and to check his statements about 2017, I did some Google searches.
A Google search of "Statement Audio Pro-measurement” returned 4 results. Perhaps Google stopped working today, and Tru-Fi is taking over?!? "Stealth Low Frequency" returned 10 results, most of which were related to missile defense and guns. But again, let’s not forget that Tru-Fi might be taking over the Internet, and Google might not be so effective while transitioning their data to Bo.

He said: “We own Sony Professional video stuff, so we will make videos soon.” in one of his posts. Good to know he owns at least one decent piece of audio-video equipment. He also said: “In 2017 we will start a videoblog as well.”. I am still looking for those. Please point me to them if you see them. Not that I want to watch them, just curious if they exist.

So after I read all that crap (btw I was interested in the topic of this post but the thread was hijacked a long time ago), I decided to check what Bo1972 is posting these days. I found one of his latest topics here - https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/review-audioquest-hurricane-part-1

In one of his posts there he said: "When I look for example at Facebook for Highend For Passionates. I can see many faults at almost each single photo...."
"When I see the pictures of loudspeakers of 200.000 dollar and the way they place them, it is the proof that it is done at the level of a child."

The reminded me of something I just read here:

Plutos: “I got a good laugh when I saw your system set up so "proffesionally". All nicely lined up against the wall.“

bo1972: “@plutos ........hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha lol :)
You life in the past and we live in the future. When you audition S.A.P. you will understand that it does not makes sense anymore where they stand. “

That's enough for me. Wasted enough time.

Someone else said:
"The more popular the brand, the more fans and the more detractors."

I couldn't agree more.  I do "feel your pain" as I own a McIntosh preamp and power amp, match up very well with my other equipment.  There are probably more "McIntosh haters" out there, compared with "Wilson haters".

I guess that's why they make chocolate and vanilla......
@vassils

Agree about the wild claims by Bo. However, there are many here who claim to hear the horns of Valhalla with all manner of ridiculous tweaks. Many claim that audio equipment does NOT work properly until you find the “right” matching cable or “right” fuse or power cord and that the only way to get it close to right is to keep swapping out cables randomly until something takes your fancy. Of course, you can never get the set up completely right as the permutations are endless - so apparently you are just to keep on tweaking forever. The fact that equipment is supposed to be designed to work properly with any suitable cable or fuse and should be expected to work properly if equipment is of high enough quality; these facts are somehow lost on these folks. This allows the virtues to be lauded of all manner of finicky and completely unreliable gear.
Well, I agree with a lot of things said here, even with some of the high-level philosophy of the One and Only God of Audio (OOGA). But a quick fact check showed that the word of the OOGA is to be trusted less than the word of a car salesman. Nothing wrong with car salesmen but they are on the bottom of my trust list. I don’t want to use a dealer or an audio consultant even if he is the OOGA if he cannot be trusted. I don’t want to have anything to do with people who lie. All these promises and claims and at the end of 2017 - nothing! Since it is the end of the year, he would probably start saying the same things about 2018 now.

Some people like tweaking their systems. It’s their hobby. If you take this away from them (by putting the “perfect” components), they may even stop listening to music. Other people like to listen to music and don’t fiddle with their system. Yes, it would be nice to have objective measurements, but claiming that whatever that measurement shows would be better than your personal taste, and there is no such thing as personal taste anymore is a bunch of BS. It’s also a bunch of BS claiming to be the only person on the planet who can do something better than everyone else. It’s a bunch of BS to say that the sound in your shop is much better than any other shop in the world. Only mentally sick people do such claims. But I guess I am not saying anything new here. Sorry for lighting up the fire again. I am not planning to spend any more time on this topic. 
I'm not a Wilson hater but I've always thought they were conspicuous consumption for people with really bad taste.  

I avoid large midranges because they are directional at higher frequencies and are overly placement sensitive.  The 7" midrange in a 3+ way speaker is loony in my opinion.  It's bound to be a pain to get those things sounding right in a room.  I'll take the 3" dome on my ATCs or the 4" coax on my Thiels any day.  Both are also built by the company that makes the speakers rather than just bought from some other driver manufacturer.