Full detailed sound at 30 - 40 - 50 dB


I love the nuance you can hear when listening to music at loud volumes, but unless no one is home, it’s not considerate or feasible to listen at such high volumes. Plus I just had a baby so everyone is always home and volume levels are limited to 40ish dBs. 

Any recommendations for getting the most detail at these volumes? Additional gear or recommended integrated amps?

My NAD 7175PE has a loudness button which boosts the treble and bass a little, and that certainly helps things in the Kitchen. 

My living room amp is a Rega Brio-R which doesn’t have any tone controls. 

Any thoughts? Thanks!
leemaze

“Full detailed sound” can easily be heard at ambient noise + about 20 db. In general ambient noise will be anywhere between 35-50 db, depending on the time of the day and other running equipment in the room like Air Conditioners, Computers or others using cooling fans. Ambient noise of 30 db or lower will only exist in studios or specially treated rooms. Even people may believe that their rooms are as quiet as 30 db or lower usually they don’t have the equipment to support their assumption. To measure such low sound pressure levels your sound level meter should be able to measure as low as 25 db. Now, for all those owning a calibrated sound level meter, not the one on your mobile phone, please check the lowest end of the scale, mostly it’s only able of measuring as low as 30-35 db.

As for waking up the baby, it may happen a few times at first, but after some time the baby will adapt to the sound of music. I remember when my wife was pregnant, I used to play music at ambient + 40 – 50 db levels almost daily, so after the birth of my son we thought it to be better to lower the levels to ambient + 20 – 30 db or so. Now, all babies sometimes have their “crying hour”, including my son, but after some time we found that when we played our favorite music, ambient + 30 – 40 db, he became quiet, relaxed and would fall asleep real quickly. It almost worked as if the music to his ears was as familiar as his mothers’ voice. It came to the point that before sleeping we played Joan Armatrading (popular music 37 years ago when my son was born), he would sleep real quickly. Not surprisingly…. he is now into high end audio…

So, go ahead, enjoy the music, even with the whole family is in the house or in the room. Just remember that the ears of a baby are still much more sensitive than ours, so keep the sound pressure levels between 60 to 70 db at most….. Happy listening.


I want to come back to the preference for tubes with high output impedance playing at low level. Why could this be? I have two explanations. The first is that a particular tube amplifier may have a non flat frequency response emphasizing low end and top. This is not infrequenctly the case (see the Stereophile response graphs for many of them), and would act as a traditional loudness control. The second explanation could be that underpowered amplifers actually compress the signal. They depress the peaks, and this has the effect of raising the relative level of the quieter passages, for more 'detail'. This is then a crude version of the digital compression software as used by FM radio stations to keep the signal within the limited dynamic range of the FM format. Yes it works, but is it realistic? No. But then, no low level playing is a realistic representation of the real thing. Enjoy the baby - my kids have now reached the age when they like to play the audio at it's limits....

willemj, take a look at the article by Nelson Pass in First Watt Articles describing how current source amplifiers work with full-range single driver speakers. It was published in 2004. Lots of great info on that site. 

http://www.firstwatt.com/articles.html

There is always more to it...
@atmasphere 

Hi Ralph. I have a follow up question if you don't mind, as I mentioned I would be re-reading/re-digesting the rather informative information you've already provided.

Regarding the "weighting' where distortion is more problematic depending on which harmonic the distortion occurs, I note that manufacturers - including your own product specifications - provide "total harmonic distortion" and in some cases "intermodulation distortion". Other than subjective listening, how might a customer objectively derive from specifications alone at which harmonics the distortion is occurring? I guess what I'm asking is, is there a way to understand the individual numbers that comprise "total" harmonic distortion? Thanks.
Other than subjective listening, how might a customer objectively derive from specifications alone at which harmonics the distortion is occurring?
That is a good question. You can get some of that from the spectral analysis. this can be tricky- I've seen some of this done on our amps, but the methodology is was incorrect (one speaker terminal got accidentally grounded by the test equipment) so the readings were off. If the measurement technique doesn't introduce problems, this can be one way of sorting things out.