Greatest Rock Drummers


Given the subject line many names come to mind such as  Ginger Baker, Keith Moon, Phil Collins and Carl Palmer but, is Neil Peart the greatest rock drummer of all time?

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Recently I have been listening to Vinnie Colaiuta a lot. He has such a great feel and plays some of the most difficult drum patterns effortlessly without sounding mechanical. The recent cds I acquired are Jeff Richman "Hotwire", Frank Zappa "Chicago 78" and Jeff Lorber Fusion "Hacienda". On Hacienda they perform a cover of Zappa’s King Kong with J L Ponty...very cool stuff.

But when it comes to Rock Drummer Only...my favorite is Neil Peart. But I love pretty much all the drummers mentioned. Bruford, Phil Collins, J Gordon, Jeff Porcaro, Baker etc

Yep tostadosunidos, Zak Starkey is doing a great job in The Who. I saw them with Keith Moon live twice, and he was a possessed madman. But Zak is actually a more powerful, muscular, player. He doesn't play with the humour (an overlooked quality in musicians) or individuality of Moon (who played unlike anyone else), but ya can't have it all. Keith gave the best answer to an interviewer I've ever heard; when asked if he could play in The Buddy Rich Big Band (the question intended to put him in his place), Keith replied "No, and Buddy Rich couldn't play in The Who".

aniwolfe, Vinnie is also Jeff Beck's drummer on the road. Insane chops, as good as anyone alive. Apparently that style drumming is what Jeff prefers, as he had Carmine Appice in his band for awhile. Porcaro was SUCH a good drummer; like Gadd, a Jazz-trained and proficient technician who played very musically. Too bad he wasted his talent playing schlock music in Toto ;-) .

Neil Peart must be the John Bonham of his generation, as he is mentioned so many times in polls, particularly by non-musicians. No offense intended! Peart has his strengths, but he wasn't aware of his glaring weakness when he organized the recording of a tribute album to Buddy Rich after Buddy's death. Rich played mostly Big Band-style jazz, which is largely played in the "Swing" feel. Swing is pretty much like the "Shuffle" feel in blues.

Early Rock 'n' Roll, as played by Little Richard, for instance, often had a very pronounced Swing/Shuffle feel, but that pretty much died out in the 60's (in R & R; it lived on in Blues). Bands like Rush didn't incorporate any of the roots influences in their music, and apparently Neil Peart wasn't interested in learning how to play the Swing/Shuffle feel. That became obvious during the recording of the BR tribute album, when Peart's inability to play Buddy's music with the required Swing feel became quite obvious. It was very embarrassing to him amongst the drumming fraternity.

There are plenty of great rock drummers out there.  But not Neil Peart or Carl Palmer.  Neil is the best Rush drummer ever, but as soon as he steps out of that context he's like a fish out of water.  Carl Palmer is unimaginative, boring and lacks any sense of time.  What he does have is squirrel muscles which give (or gave) him enormous speed.  I joked that with Emerson and Lake gone, there was no one left that thought he was a good drummer.

Truly great rock drummers, in my opinion, would be Barry Barlow, ex of Tull, and Simon Phillips, who does mostly jazz now.  Of course Clive Bunker gets an honorable mention too.  Outside of rock, Coliauta and Weckl lead the pack, but there are so many monsters out there nowadays.