5-10k budget... so many choices


So its that time of year where I get to combine my tax return and annual bonus.  I am looking at stepping into the world of hi-fi and the more I research the more questions I have.  I am mainly looking at creating a 3.2 soundstage for 50/50 home theater and music listening.  I originally started out with a budget of 5k but after listening to step ups I am open to increasing my budget to ~10k.  I have listened to the B&W 702's, 804's, 803's the GoldenEar Reference, the Focal Kanta 2's, and Martin Logan 60t's.  After listening I was quickly able to eliminate the ribbon style of the Martin Logan, as for the GoldenEar's and the lower B&W's I was impressed with the accuracy and composure of both speakers and could have otherwise been quite content but it all changed once I heard the Focal's and 803's. I truly felt them, they gave me that indescribable goosebump feeling and I dont know if I can go back.  So far if I had to pick one, I would hands down go with the Focals, but since I am starting from the ground up I want a speaker that can grow with my setup.  Initially I will be using a Marantz 7012 AVR but will eventually add either 2 channel or dual mono block amplification.  At any rate I was curious what other speakers in this range give that feeling of experience and presence, the goosebumps.  Ideally I would like to be able to incorporate a center channel and dual subs but at this point I put more priority on the quality and clarity of the towers as they are the stars of the show.  Anyway I appreciate and thank you for any feedback and ideas.

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What a busy weekend... it didnt all go according to plan but I still got some quality listening time in.  I went back to audition the Kanta's again but this time I also got to hear the Spora 2's which is where I started. 

First off my thoughts on the Sopras... they are pretty big and the increased driver size was definitely noticeable.  They extended low and punched deep but never seemed to sound "boomy".  I feel like there was more room in the high end and they just never seemed to quite reach that upper ceiling to give them that sense of a truly dynamic sound.  Im not really knocking them, they were incredibly clean and produced a full sound but they seemed more geared towards modern bass forward music.  I also felt that the mid levels, especially percussion, kind of took a back seat.  They were driven with McIntosh tubes which may have played a role in their overall sound.  What was really interesting was after listening to the Sopras I went to the back and listened to the Kanta/Naim combo I had fallen in love with.... To my surprise that gushy feeling they gave me was gone... The Kanta's sounded much more forced and almost bright.  I listened at the same levels I had previously and they almost felt fatiguing, they were still punchy and dynamic and lively but I found myself wanting to back them down, not push them forward as I had before.  Im not sure if that is a result of listening to the Sopra first but it definitely made me scratch my head.  I spent about 45 minutes listening to all kinds of content and I just couldnt back to that place they took me to when I first heard them. 

Saturday I got a late start and wasnt able to get out to Silverdale to hear the Legacy's but I did make it to Tacoma for a good audition of the Vandersteens.  All I can say is WOW, what a totally different speaker and experience.  They had recently shuffled their demo room around and only had an Anthem AVR driving Treo's, so we listened to several CDs through an OPPPO unit.  Even with the minimal setup these speakers still came alive.  Their sound is incredibly unique, they made the music we listened to come alive.  The separation was unreal, they created and presented a truly LIVE sound stage.  At first he put on Dave Mathews and I asked him if it was one of their live albums, to my shock and surprise it was just the studio version of Under the Table and Dreaming.  The way the Vandersteens isolated each instrument and element of the recordings was phenomenal, the speakers just disappeared.  The sound was rich, it was full, and it had an airiness to it.  I wouldnt say the sound was fragile but it had a definite delicateness to it.  Looking back and comparing them to the Focals the best way I can describe my impression is this, the Focal's were like an electric guitar, plugged in and turned up to 11, where as the Vandersteen's were like an acoustic guitar with a richer more intimate and soulful sound.  They really are that different.  One thing that was really refreshing about the audition was the room had absolutely zero treatment so in theory I got to hear them in basically a "home" type of environment.

Im still no closer to a decision and if anything I am even more torn, its like loving ice cream and having to choose between chocolate or vanilla.  They are so different but at the same time both so good.  A consideration that I am realizing is I need to take into account my space.  The room itself is big, but its awkward.  After rearranging my furniture orientation I will be seated about 6 ft from the speakers and at best I will be able to position them 7.5 ft apart.  If I had to be pressed into a choice today I think I would have to give the nod to the Vandersteen's.  I really want to love the Kanta's but I just cant get the taste of their last listening out of my mouth, Im afraid that they will end up just being dominating in my home.  I still have plenty of time before I have to decide and I no doubt will spend several hours with both speakers again.  Im also going to try and get some time with the Revel's and Paradigms.
In the 5-10k range I’d definitely consider Revel’s new 10k speaker which may or may not be available right now. Don’t know model no but it’s definitely been announced and Revel is great stuff. Kevin V is a great designer backed with a big budget.
The fact that your impressions of the Kantas did a 180 is suspicious.  Same exact setup?  That’s...  odd.  They didn’t move them since you were last there?
@lowspark  Great update on your Saturday demos!

I also want to commend you on keeping the thread updated with your posts and journey and in such a detailed and excellent manner. 

So many Post Originators (OPs) disappear or contribute minimally. 

As you found out, even the short journey so far has some interesting twists and turns. 
I’ve been reading this forum thread, and in particular the speaker comparisons of @lowspark and others, with great interest since I am also thinking about buying a new pair of speakers in the $5-10K range and upgrading my AVR system. I’m hoping to be able to soon listen to the new Elac Adantes, which have received rave comments from people who have listen to them. I’ve also been reading the Tektron DI’s rave reviews, but find these speakers to be too big. Unfortunately living in the California Bay Area, my home is small and we only have space in the living room for the AVR/stereo system. My wife would probably get a heart attack if the ungainly DI’s were suddenly placed in the living room. I’ve been considering the smaller, but still imposing and somewhat ungainly, Tektron Electrons as an alternative to the DIs. Another alternative are the soon to be released Magico A3s, which were recently favorably compared with the Sopra No2s. (http://www.soundstageglobal.com/index.php/product-debuts/magico-a3-december-2017/739-magico-a3-louds...). I’m also checking for used B&W 803 D3s, but these speakers seem to elicit widely diverging comments (some people love them, while others hate them). I guess that I have to spend more time listening in addition to reading forums and reviews.