Thiel 2.3 vs 2.4 the real difference

Mr systems,

Now that you have switched to calling me by my last name I guess you are irked. My point has always been that your experience is the one that seems out of step. I HAVE measured mine and do not have the peaks you suggest. Perhaps only me, 6 or 7 reviewers and most of the people posting to audioreview managed to get the only good versions of the 2.3 and all yours were defective. I do not deny your tests, just maintain that you seem to be the odd man out here. Check Thiel's site and lookup the online reviews. Many have charts and only Sterophile shows the climb in the treble, and their chart has different look than all the others they have. Where is the room averaged response with the blocky line?

Tim

Tim

Depending on when the review was done will determine the response, heck if your CS2.3's are new then some changes could have happened after I stopped selling Thiels to inch it closer to where the CS2.4 is.

But one constant was a -4/-5 dB dip at or around 1200hz-1500hz and a rise of +4-+5 db through the 4K range which is a near +10 swing. in a narrow range of frequencies.

Last time I measured the CS2.3 was 2000, so that left 2 more years for changes.

Plus you are discounting the negative reaction of many, many clients. They listen they tell me what they think. What about them? That has a great deal to do with my stance, they weren't always so diplomatic as reviewers.

Tim, I'm not upset, and I realize I'm out of step with common lore on the speaker. Item: 1117244877 Take a look at a speaker I built and how it measures. I'm just an amateur, weird guy out of step with the world. But just so there's no misunderstanding what my expectations are.

Jazzdude
Yes sir, it's me. I will always be greatfull for your advices. Thanks to you I got SIM W5 and absoloutly love it. I will check out the TACT RCS.
I would like to hear from people who switched from 2.3 to 2.4. I listened to 2.4 in dealers room and it sounded different then my 2.3. But the whole equipment was different so I cannot say how they actually differ. If I got a chance to have them in-house I will tell here what I found.

Cinematic systems, what piece of equipment did you use to measure the speaker's response? What weighting did you use?

No weighting,

MLSSA, a computer program with B&K microphone and preamp

ETF with calibrated microphone and preamp

version 2.0 (not my system)

Version 4.7? (my system)

My speakers measured on Version 5.9 calibrated microphone.