audiozen has a beef with Vandersteen and it shows in your posts. That alone makes anyone question what you say. You have the general idea about pricing down, but not in all cases. That's a fact. You speak in absolute terms and fail to realize that many dealers carry equipment that is much better in sound and quality than direct sell. Not in all cases and that's why I own a bit of each in my own system. I just want what sounds best for me like most folks seem to want.
You can speak in absolutes all you want about cabinet materials or expensive drivers and crossovers used, but that means nothing if not implemented correctly. Maybe the Accent guy does that, but they still won't be the right speaker for everyone. I love Vandersteen's and Tidal and a few others right now, but that doesn't mean that everyone will or should. This is why there are a ton of makers out there.
If a direct buy company doesn't offer at least a 30 day 100% money back guarantee, then I personally won't purchase from them unless they bring the product to the house (yes, I'm lucky since some folks are close to CT). Maybe that speaker company does that. If so, good on them.
As for Vandersteen using ghost writers, I highly doubt it. As for his temper, who knows how you were with him. It takes two to communicate. I know a few folks who have had negative conversations with some of the biggest gentlemen in the industry. It's ironic as I've overheard Richard speaking with an engineer about design concepts etc... He may not be an engineer on paper, but he surly seemed to know what he was talking about. Not all engineers have a degree or need one. They can be self taught too.
I personally don't care too much about all of that as I'm more into the music and great sound. You can get that from a variety of components and matching as you pointed out in your Denon response, is THE key thing. No need to purchase anything if you aren't going to match it with the correct devices. Thats' at all price points I personally believe.
I'm not going to disparage anyone or any product in this thread as I don't have a beef, like you admitted to with anyone. The OP needs to get out and audition as many products as they can in order to figure out what they really want. When folks actually get to stores and listen for a bit and not let the dealer or the manufacture talk them into something, they will find out they really do like one thing over another. So often folks don't think amps or pre amps etc, really make a big difference until the sit down and listen to a few of them adn notice that they may not want what they came in look for. I had that happen wiht me when I thought I wanted Vandy 2 back in the late 90s and walked out with a pair of floor standing ProAc's instead.
Clock forward to about 4 years ago and I went into the closest ProAc dealer as Richard G (former distributor) sent me to Audio Connection. I wanted to purchase a new pair of the newer D series monitors and I walked out with a pair of Vandersteen Treo's. The owner forced me to listen to all the speakers in my price range, because we all hear differently.
OP, forget all of us and go listen.lol
You can speak in absolutes all you want about cabinet materials or expensive drivers and crossovers used, but that means nothing if not implemented correctly. Maybe the Accent guy does that, but they still won't be the right speaker for everyone. I love Vandersteen's and Tidal and a few others right now, but that doesn't mean that everyone will or should. This is why there are a ton of makers out there.
If a direct buy company doesn't offer at least a 30 day 100% money back guarantee, then I personally won't purchase from them unless they bring the product to the house (yes, I'm lucky since some folks are close to CT). Maybe that speaker company does that. If so, good on them.
As for Vandersteen using ghost writers, I highly doubt it. As for his temper, who knows how you were with him. It takes two to communicate. I know a few folks who have had negative conversations with some of the biggest gentlemen in the industry. It's ironic as I've overheard Richard speaking with an engineer about design concepts etc... He may not be an engineer on paper, but he surly seemed to know what he was talking about. Not all engineers have a degree or need one. They can be self taught too.
I personally don't care too much about all of that as I'm more into the music and great sound. You can get that from a variety of components and matching as you pointed out in your Denon response, is THE key thing. No need to purchase anything if you aren't going to match it with the correct devices. Thats' at all price points I personally believe.
I'm not going to disparage anyone or any product in this thread as I don't have a beef, like you admitted to with anyone. The OP needs to get out and audition as many products as they can in order to figure out what they really want. When folks actually get to stores and listen for a bit and not let the dealer or the manufacture talk them into something, they will find out they really do like one thing over another. So often folks don't think amps or pre amps etc, really make a big difference until the sit down and listen to a few of them adn notice that they may not want what they came in look for. I had that happen wiht me when I thought I wanted Vandy 2 back in the late 90s and walked out with a pair of floor standing ProAc's instead.
Clock forward to about 4 years ago and I went into the closest ProAc dealer as Richard G (former distributor) sent me to Audio Connection. I wanted to purchase a new pair of the newer D series monitors and I walked out with a pair of Vandersteen Treo's. The owner forced me to listen to all the speakers in my price range, because we all hear differently.
OP, forget all of us and go listen.lol