Repuluso, who is stepping on whom?
The point of our original post was to point out how and why someone who is in one camp will not be easily swayed to moving into a different camp of sound.
It is interesting how certain posters make ridiculous claims on innovation and revolutionary designs without backing anything up and it seems you don’t like our scientfic analysis of things.
The majority of the audio industry is simply repackaging or voicing.
There are very few real audio geniuses out there: in electronics:
Nelson Pass, David Hafler, David Berninig, John Curl, are true innovators, with patents and innovations to their names to name a few.
Dan Dagastino, Mark Levinson the man, Hans Ole Vitus, Harve Dartzeel and many others, never innovated anything, all their products are excellent impliementions of circuits they didn’t design with careful parts selection and voicing. Never said these products aren’t magnificent.
In terms of loudspeaker designers the true geniues are gentleman like
Peter Walker of Quad, Quad ELS 57 and 63
The founder of Kef,Raymond Cooke, too many innovations to list
Bob Carver, subwoofer design
Graham Bank Celesion Aerolam Cabinet SL 600, 700
John Bau Spica Crossover design,
John Dalquist, DQ 10, open baffle designs
Jack Oclee Brown Kef Tangerine wave guide
Laurence Dickie, B&W, Vivid,Matrix Design, Tappered tube loading
Just to name a few
Many talented designers made great speakers due to experimentation, and implementation which is 80% of the industry.
We never said x y or z is good or bad but pointed out that each design has flaws, including the Adantes, they are hardly perfect. We also pointed out that many of the products we like offer a lot of value and challenge other more expensive ones it is up to the listener to determine what they want to purchase.
If you notice many of these fanboys all make the claims that brand x is better than brand y or is the only product that is good, We point out the nature of these products.
If you look at the frequency response curves on many of these products you can see how they will possibly sound, in the case of the Vandy the measurements show the speakers are generally recessed in the midrange and slightly rolled off in treble, hence they sound the way they measure.
In the Hifi New review of the Adantes they show a spike at 10k guess what you can hear that as being a tad forward in the treble hence our comments that you need a warmer sounding solid state or tube amp.
Beryillium and Diamond drivers can be bright never said they aren’t, many paper cones and soft domes sound a bit recessed.
Recluso we know a lot about sound reproduction and we call em like we hear them.
Again for the simple summary Vandy great value for dollar 2CE and 1C sound musical wtih their own specfic set of sonics qualities good and bad,
Elac Adantes very interesting design which has some amazing qualities but requires carefull matching of it can be peaky in the treble.
Planers don’t kick and very few guys hailed as audio geniuses actually are when compaired to the real innovators.
And if we rub you the wrong way and don’t want to work with us that is fine, we probably couldn’t teach you anything.
By the way big news flash, put a set of Isoacoustics Gia under the Adantes and it helps drain away that 10k resonance
Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ
