gcknapp, i have them on 24 inch stand that i bought from Ascend Acoustic for another pair of monitor i had. i use them with and without the Vandersteen 2wq sub. for most of the jazz that i have , these do fine, they cover the standup bass very well, with some Fusion i use the sub, but was just as please without them too. if i had a small to medium room, these would have been great. Richard said on his site that they sell a lot of VLR Woods with the 2WQ sub as a 2.1 system.