yna said: " Holy Moly...you guys ARE old! How is it possible your hearing is even remotely still good enough to note the subtle differences expensive cables and wire might make???"
I got interested in audio in 1970 (I was 18) and started experimenting with cables in 1980, I was 38. I am now 65 with only a very minor loss in my left ear and have no problem hearing differences (good or bad) in cables.
Why do you state facts based on other people’s work, citing nothing you have done yourself. It sounds like you think any cable more expensive than Monoprice is a ripoff, doesn’t sound any better and provided nothing that says you have tried anything else.
If you are of the camp that says if the measurements are the same, the sound is the same and that if you pay more then ?$, it is a ripoff. So what, who cares! Most of us in high-end audio are smart people and are not swayed by condescending statements like:
" intelligent people can be so naive when it comes to audio improvements with no basis in reality." -
" In my opinion, the differences in cables (if any - for comparable resistance and length) are very subtle. So subtle that by the time you swap our to a different set your audio memory (the accuracy of which is extremely perishable) will not be able to recall the previous audio parameters sufficiently to note a difference. " -
" Not to mention the colorful garden hose sizes you can buy for mucho $$$$$$. " -
" What audioman is saying in his post is that if you pay more it, will sound better. Same old snake oil pitch. " -
" You should have spent $5K, wgutz, with that extra two grand expectation, your system would have sounded jaw-droppingly better for sure." -
I resent being talked to down by you! Please, consider a vacation from this forum, go on a "quest" and do a bit of cable exploration, maybe gain some experience in listening to different types of wire other than Monoprice. 😎
I got interested in audio in 1970 (I was 18) and started experimenting with cables in 1980, I was 38. I am now 65 with only a very minor loss in my left ear and have no problem hearing differences (good or bad) in cables.
Why do you state facts based on other people’s work, citing nothing you have done yourself. It sounds like you think any cable more expensive than Monoprice is a ripoff, doesn’t sound any better and provided nothing that says you have tried anything else.
If you are of the camp that says if the measurements are the same, the sound is the same and that if you pay more then ?$, it is a ripoff. So what, who cares! Most of us in high-end audio are smart people and are not swayed by condescending statements like:
" intelligent people can be so naive when it comes to audio improvements with no basis in reality." -
" In my opinion, the differences in cables (if any - for comparable resistance and length) are very subtle. So subtle that by the time you swap our to a different set your audio memory (the accuracy of which is extremely perishable) will not be able to recall the previous audio parameters sufficiently to note a difference. " -
" Not to mention the colorful garden hose sizes you can buy for mucho $$$$$$. " -
" What audioman is saying in his post is that if you pay more it, will sound better. Same old snake oil pitch. " -
" You should have spent $5K, wgutz, with that extra two grand expectation, your system would have sounded jaw-droppingly better for sure." -
I resent being talked to down by you! Please, consider a vacation from this forum, go on a "quest" and do a bit of cable exploration, maybe gain some experience in listening to different types of wire other than Monoprice. 😎