Naim and Elac Adante, Wow

Plenty busy actually.

The point is we work in the audio industry, it is our job to know, test, and to evaluate audio gear.

Funny we find a guy like you with your narrow point of view to be childish.

You questioned our motives when you stated that we are shillling for our products.

To which we showed you in several posts we try to assist people whenever we can.,

There is so much misinformation on this site.

And again stick to the topic ELAC Adates  got an opinion on em?

I guess not or you would actually be doing what a forum is supposed to be about. Talking about audio.

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ

To be fair to the moderators, I did make a post (first as new Audiogon member!!) and then deleted my own post that was antagonistic to Audio Doctor, because I realized it had loaded language that should only be an issue about 1.5% of the time yet may have been in this instance.

If there is such drama and sanctimony on an audio forum and people can’t enjoy such a delightful subject matter, this world is screwed. And of course the culprit of this derision is also the one that declares they are “harassed”.

Gerdessc

You are correct it should be fun and people should be able to express ideas and points without people blowing their tops.

You got guys saying they would never come into our shop, based on what they read, here, come on, if you think the experience of talking with someone on a forum is like meeting someone in person or talking with them on the phone it isn't.  The ultimate proof is hearing the products and systems setup and seeing for yourself if you agree or disagree that the sound is good and to your taste.

We even said the Elac's have a tendency to be a bit hot and require careful matching. The problem is how overblown people's love and support of their products is. 

You should be able to openly discuss, drivers, technology, engineers, etcs, without feeling threatened. Whether brand X or Y employs technology which would be considered by some to be "revolutionary" while others do not feel that that technology is classified as such should engender an open discourse 

The derisive term that some posters have been raising towards us is shilling or trolling, for gain, the reality is that almost 0 people have purchased anything from us, by our replies on these forums, read what Zzsantabarbara  wrote about what they learned from us

The point we keep on making is that audio products are just tools if you can find a better one who cares out with the old and in with  the new. 

We are passionate about our products but quite frankly don't care so much about the brand we are always discovering and trying out new brands and equipment. 

In the case of Elac the Adantes are brand new and are controversial because they do have a pronounced flavor, if you care for a dynamic, visceral speaker with a big sound stage and a bit forward treble, you will love them.

If you prefer a softer treble, a richer midrange and less pronounced deep bass these are not the speakers for you.

If you notice in our posts we often mention different products as we sell many brands of loudspeakers, including, Dali, Legacy, Elac, Paradigm, KEF Rethem, Gradient, Cabasse we don't feel that any one brand of these speakers is more correct then the others, while other dealers, posters feel that only brand x is the path to musical nirvana.

This post was started to demonstrate that you can put together a fantastic package that is affordable and makes the Elac's come alive with a very complimentary package and not to go off track with a discussion of other loudspeakers design attributes. 

The moderators are doing a terrible job, posts that are not related to the subject should be removed. Period, no member should be attacked because you don't like what they write. 

If you don't like what they write don't get indignant just don't read the post.  There are many great people here with different points of view and likes and dislikes.  

The market is vast and you may be surprised by what you can learn from stores like ours we have over 60 brands on display, because we try to find products to fit the client, not fit the client to the product. 

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor NJ

@audiodoctor I hear your points and don’t doubt your motives or expertise, but you are discounting how you come off to others. Your comments serve to diminish others’ preference, which is de facto subjective, patents and innovation aside, as well as their experiences. People don’t like to be browbeaten; much of your lengthy prose does just that. 

I don’t have a dog in the fight, haven’t heard Elacs and own a number of your brands (where’s Primaluna in the lineup?!?) but perhaps some genuflection is in order. 

Gerdessc,

Never have we browbeaten anyone, nor do we diminish anyone's preferences.  

We like and respect many brands that we don't sell, but unlike some of the other posters, we do not subscribe to the only one brand is better philosophy. We believe in offering real choice, sure we have our preferences but if you visited our shop and were shopping for speakers we would play you many different loudspeakers till we found a system that made you happy. 

As we have discussed on many other forum posts, there are fantastic loudspeakers that are first order time aligned designs and ones that are not, that are also fantastic. 

We do not believe that there is only one truth in audio so the Wilson guy who loves Wilson or the Vandy guy who loves Vandy may or may not love our Paradigms or Legacys or Kef's but there are some who may be shopping for these products and fall in love with the sound of some of these. 

We have recommended our brands as we wouldn't be recommending them if we didn't think that those products represent the core values which we believe in you will notice that in these general discussions we talk about other loudspeakers we don't sell that we like as well. 

Lets just agree that we all have preferences and even if a system is well setup and voiced a particular way may not be to a particular persons liking. 

Our preference generally is for very dynamic, transparent, loudspeakers, transistor amps and digital sources, that is not to say that we don't also love vinyl and tubes. 

On only one occasion have we brought in something totally different which is the Rethem Bahava which is a wide band single drive with isobaric bass as a really cool alternative type of speaker.

You seem like a nice fellow, but don't get suckered in by some of these very negative people and perhaps reach out and talk to us and see what you think. You may be pleasantly surprised by what we can offer you in terms of ideas on how to make your system even better. 

Dave and Troy
Audio Doctor