Subwoofer Decision


I have narrowed my search to two choices though I am sure I will get comments steering me away from these.
Contrast Rythmik Audio 12G with Vandersteen 2Wq. I would like to get only one though I know a pair are best choice. Could maybe afford 2 Rythmik, but only 1 Vandersteen for now. The subwoofer would support Dali Helicons (4 ohms) biwired and driven by 2 mono McIntosh MC 252's at 500 watts each into 4 ohms. Living room size aprox. 24'x16'x8' placement not centered on 16' wall due to furniture (wife) constraints must stay put. Subwoofer placement needs also to stay there as well, I know this limits possible best choice for placement, my bad. There is room behind, next to, and between speakers. Any help help is appreciated.
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I'll admit that the internal crossovers on many subwoofers leave a lot to be desired, but the best solution is to avoid them altogether and get a preamp or integrated amp that has bass management and room correction built-in, something that's woefully missing from most stereo pre-amps.  

The Anthem STR Pre-Amp is one of the best, though if you're not using balanced connection you could integrate a MiniDSP DDRC-24 for a lot less money.  

For the sake of completeness.....the Rythmik PEQ plate amps (all those not including XLR connections) allow the sub to be fed from either a pre-amp (line level) OR a power amp (speaker level). RCA jacks are provided for line level hook up, binding posts for a high level signal from a power amp. It works the same in that regard as both Vandersteens and REL’s. You can try the sub both ways, and decide for yourself which you prefer. The Rythmiks also have an excellent set of controls, with adjustable phase (not just a 0/180 switch), damping, x/o frequency and slope, and one band of PEQ (parametric equalization, for room modes). None better on the market.

I myself don’t know why anyone would want to add the imperfections of a power amp (they all have them) to those of a pre, but it’s worth a try. The notion that taking the sub signal from the power amp that is feeding the speakers will be of benefit in the effort to make the sub sound "as one" with the speaker strikes me as specious (except perhaps in the case of the Atma-Sphere OTL’s---no output transformers, with their well-known problems doing bass), but I’ve been mistaken before. Heck, I got married once.

For anyone living in or around NYC wanting to hear Rythmik subs, Sterling Sound Mastering has three pair of Rythmik F15’s (15" woofers instead of the F12’s 12") in their rooms. Don’t tell them I sent you. ;-)

I want to repeat my recommendation to use multiple small subs for a much smoother response. See here for an introduction:  http://www.acousticfrontiers.com/20101029using-multiple-subwoofers-to-improve-bass-the-welti-devanti... Good subs will sound better, but the room remains the real elephant in the room. In addition, I would never use subs without some room equalization such as the Antimode 8033. I am overjoyed with mine.

I have always used MK subwoofers. The originators and still right up with the best. Interestingly, they are not mentioned much.

 Vandersteens method of having a capacitor in line to roll off the low frequencies was also done very early in the Dahlquist DLP1 crossover.
In it you could change capacitors/resistors to suit your impedance and roll off frequency. Not sure if anyone else implemented a similar approach.
If you are at all handy with a soldering iron you could pop the top on your amp and install a pair of caps inline on the RCA + inputs. This would roll off your amp at a chosen frequency. Say 80Hz or so. Then your powered subs fed from your pre can  go down from there using their built in crossover. The crossover calculations are available online to determine the size of caps and (resistors) needed.
Vandersteen rolls off the entire frequency band, (via MIT caps in the pair I had) sends it to the subs and then has a boost circuit in the subs power amps to regain what was taken away, while the main speakers are then passively being fed (with roll off intact) thru the subs connections.
Works fine, just a different way.
Nowadays digital processing seems to be the preffered method via devices such as MiniDSP.