Cable Snake Oil Antidote

Whoa! What?! Double Blind Testing! I did not see that coming! 👀 Run away! Run away! 

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@shadorne  

Poorly designed and poorly matched gear will be affected audibly by the slight impedance of a cable. High fidelity gear will not.

Only AFTER they repeal the laws of physics. The better the gear, the easier it is to 'hear' cables as masking defects have been removed.

@geoffkait 

It’s strictly an old pseudo skeptic

I'm not a skeptic. I've been able to reliably detect cable & component differences for almost half a century. I built electronics for the recording industry. In doing so, we evaluated transistors, ICs, resistors, capacitors, wire, PCB fabs, connectors, circuit symmetry, SMT vs PTH, ground schemes, signal routing, etc. Some had measureable differences with the equipment we possessed, some only audible.

argument to claim “cable manufacturers make all kinds of wild claims.” Especially when no examples of such wild claims are presented by the pseudo skeptic

It would be unfair to single out some manufacturers as their cables could be very good in some systems in spite of their pseudo-science double-speak. The intent is for people to do their homework and listen for themselves, ignoring internet blowhards without an iota of technical expertise or any test data to back up their claims.

Justifying wild claims because HiFi is a hobby is ludicrous. HiFi is a business and some manufacturers are charlatans.

Amended to "Some cable manufacturers make all kinds of wild claims" My apologies.

Coffee is a bad analogy as it is an organic product. It varies from day to day, degrading from the instant it dropped from the roaster. HiFi also varies from day to day, but the trajectory is not always downward.

Coffee Rule of Fifteens:
Green coffee is good for 15 months.
Roast coffee is good for 15 days.
Ground coffee is good for 15 minutes.

@ieales 

Sorry but the laws of physics are very clear. You are just making stuff up.

Only badly designed and badly matched gear are going to make audible differences with a normal short run of wire to the speakers.

There is no masking effect - you are thinking perhaps of MPEG audio compression codecs? 

There is such a thing as a skin effect but it is really not worth even the time of day to discuss this at audio frequencies - negligible.

“It would be unfair to single out some manufacturers as their cables could be very good in some systems in spite of their pseudo-science double-speak.“

Listen Mr. Smarty Pants, you don’t have to mention any names. Just cut and paste this pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo you’re referring to. If you can’t post any examples I will certainly understand. 🙄

If you couldn’t measure differences maybe you didn’t look hard enough. Differences in resistance according to direction of ANY cable or wire are there, though small. But I wouldn’t say the differences are insignificant. I’d say that’s the smoking gun, the clue that all wire and cables are directional. Of course one can also reverse the fuse or the cable and listen. In addition, we already know that capacitors that measure the same can sound quite different, or resistors, or connectors, what have you.

" Listen Mr. Smarty Pants, you don’t have to mention any names. Just cut and paste this pseudo scientific mumbo jumbo you’re referring to. " - geoffkait


Seriously??? Where does one begin....How about a full Youtube video presentation with rambling mumbo jumbo about improving current delivery of an amplifier by using a power conditioner AHEAD of the amplifier in the signal chain?? Would that be a good place to start "Mr. Smarty Pants"?  Did you just crawl out from under a rock or were you just joking with an insinuation that bogus mumbo jumbo isn't a huge part of Audiophiledum?

Check out the Audioquest "presentation" at this year's CES.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGX3MbSnNKY&t=1951s

The BS, ahem, I mean "technical presentation" starts at the twenty minute mark.