Cable Snake Oil Antidote


Some might find this Cable Snake Oil Antidote interesting with respect to LRC, the signal and the system.

Cables affect the sound and the effect is system dependent.

Another's opinion on a cable in a vastly different system may not be valid.
ieales
aalenik said

 " Here's what I've found in over 40 years of listening...

1. Cables (and AC cords) DEFINITELY make a difference.

2. Interconnects cannot 'improve' sound. All they can do is degrade it. The best ones degrade the sound the least (i.e. they transmit it with the least 'damage' and 'loss' of the signal).

3. Generally, these differences are MORE pronounced w/ better (i.e. more highly resolving) components.  If the signal is distorted to start with, a great cable will only give a more accurate presentation of that distorted signal. It cannot 'clean it up'.

4. Lastly, to those who say 'if you can't measure it, you can't hear it'... You're assuming that we can measure everything that matters; that our knowledge of electronics, physics, and psycho-acoustics are all perfect.  Absurd! If you think there's nothing left to learn... well, that's extremely foolish, isn't it?"


If you've been listening and evaluating for 40 years and didn't know that one of the primary problems with interconnects is common mode noise, then pretty much everything else you have to say on this subject is useless. It took the "audiophile community" about 25 years to acknowledge what the "objectivists" in the pro sound community have been saying all along - BALANCED LINE LEVEL CABLES ARE REQUIRED FOR HIGH FIDELITY. Finally, after many, many years - "high end" components are more often than not using balanced inputs. The problem with interconnects isn't signal loss as aalenik proclaims above - it has always been picking up stray low level interence from adjacent power cords and rf - the longer the run the more chance for very low level electromagnetic radiation to get picked up in the interconnect and passed along to the input stage of an amp where it is magnified greatly.

As for aalenik, there are very good reasons not to put your faith totally in the subjective camp or objective camp. Principal among them would be that the person inclined to do either is likely clueless. An open mind and intelligence requires that we respect both our direct audible senses and all the evidence our other senses can bring to bear to help us learn about that which we do not know. We measure. We listen. And we never stop trying to draw correlations between the two. When we do - we have disavowed the pursuit of "truth" in favor of "belief" and all scientific progress comes to a grinding halt.


“As for aalenik, there are very good reasons not to put your faith totally in the subjective camp or objective camp. Principal among them would be that the person inclined to do either is likely clueless. An open mind and intelligence requires that we respect both our direct audible senses and all the evidence our other senses can bring to bear to help us learn about that which we do not know. We measure. We listen. And we never stop trying to draw correlations between the two. When we do - we have disavowed the pursuit of "truth" in favor of "belief" and all scientific progress comes to a grinding halt.”

Thanks for the excellent (though a teeny bit snarky) manifesto we see from several corners expressing the notion that Science today, failing to be open minded itself, is hell bent on eclipsing Religion as the Uber Truth Purpeyor extant. Heaven help us!


geoffkait"Thanks for the excellent (though a teeny bit snarky) manifesto we see from several corners expressing the notion that Science today, failing to be open minded itself, is hell bent on eclipsing Religion"

"Science" as it is practiced lately hear by those who claim everything sounds the same is the same as religion there is no difference these selfproclaimed "scientists" even come in hear with they're fundamentalist beliefs and proselytize in the hope of "saving" the "gullible" from the "snakeoil" foisted on them by others these methods are well established and have been highly refined by those who use it to promote popularize and pontificate a particular religious faith! They have wisely chosen methods techniques and practices that have been refined through the centuries by those seeking to make their dogma that subscribed to by all!
Science re enforces religion on a daily basis - ask any astronomer for his/her views as to whether expansion of the universe is speeding up or slowing down. Ask a particle physicist about the challenges associated with measuring subatomic particles that seem to be able to travel faster than the speed of light - breaking one of Einstein's "golden rules". They all (probably most) inevitably wind up talking about the "Creator" and what all this stuff means to them on a personal basis. I think the clueless ones who just accept or believe what they are told have less "religion" than those who constantly push themselves to discover.  To me, the drive to use every sense/skill to learn more about the universe around us represents the utmost expression of love and respect for the "Creative Force" that produced us and everything we see, touch, smell, and hear.

cj1965
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Science re enforces religion on a daily basis..They all (probably most) inevitably wind up talking about the "Creator"...I think the clueless ones who just accept or believe what they are told have less "religion" than those who constantly push themselves to discover. 

I think it is wonderful that you hold such deeply held matter of belief and faith and that you feel an urgent need to convert those hear who do not share your faith with you that is exactly my point! As long as the Moderators allow I encourage you to continue your diligent efforts to convert the "gullible" here and remember that you do need to proof anything because it is a matter of belief and faith you live in a free country and no one can tell you who or how to worship that is your right!