subwoofers and panels don't mix

Lightminer,

For your goals, I suspect that a pair of SVS Ultras in sealed (or maybe 16hz tuned) mode would be hard to beat. Remember that the additional sub provides 3db (more like 5db in my room) output, so read the distortion/clean output graphs at lower output to maintain "apples to apples" comparisons.

Also, bear in mind that the output at, say, 50hz from your Maggies will NOT sound the same as the 50hz output from a sub. I can't say for sure which you'll prefer, but I'm confident that you'll hear a difference. If you EQ the subs, I'm nearly 100% sure you'll hear quite a significant difference.

Good Luck

Marty

I know this isn't music, but the movie 'Push' has some of the best bass I've ever heard integrated into a movie. And I mean really low bass. I think flat response is a bit low, raise the level of the woofer (assuming you're crossing over at 60 Hz or below, mine is at 50 Hz), just move it up a tad.

The scene where he walks into the restaurant and moves the salt (water? can't remember) pouring out from the waitress to the person's food/drink with his hand - that should be very audible. If you adjust the woofer up a bit (not too far!) so that you can clearly hear that as loud bass, then the movie will have a ton of really really really really low bass that is well done - not overdone. I'm pretty sure we're talking 20 - 35 Hz bass, that is some serious soundwork they did. If your system doesn't go to 20, you'll be missing out! :)

Has anyone experimented with horn subs?
I have recently acquired some Soundlab M1's and still have a long way to go to get the total system working properly. One aspect is the bass weight. Soundlabs are reviewed as having very good realistic bass, so a sub should not be necessary.
However before I got the Soundlabs I was going to try out a Klipschorn bass unit that I managed to get hold of - my theory is that it would make the ideal sub. Only a horn has the transient speed and "air" to keep up with a panel????
Any responses?

Only a horn has the transient speed and "air" to keep up with a panel????
Any responses?

A horn subwoofer would need a huge chamber. If it were folded and made of concrete (so the walls did not introduce distortion) then it might work but we are talking dimensions of 30 feet or so. If you are thinking ported or TL design then the transient response will not be as good as a sealed box.