Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
jafant

more urgent for older models as their cross-overs are likely to be needed (due to age)

Good point! I see that as a secondary benefit. The intention of the upgrades is to notably increase the quality of the passive parts and, thereby, the SQ. As Tom Thiel wrote earlier in this thread:

Thiel was always about finding the optimum point on the cost-performance slope so that real music lovers could afford our products.

Speaking for myself (and not Mr. Thiel), the upgrades seek to maximize SQ beyond what was possible at the price points of the original products. IMO, a cost-no-object approach to the XOs for the CS7.2 or CS3.7 would have likely have placed those speakers on par with the best available. The upgrades intend to seek to squeeze the ultimate SQ from the designs.

I am still burning in my new resistors, so don’t yet have a final verdict but my initial impression is that the Mills MRAs are a worthwhile, yet subtle, improvement over the ERSE resistors originally installed. This change in parts would have added $200-300 retail to the CS2.4 and represents, I think, the kind of decision Jim Thiel would have made when optimizing the “cost-performance slope”.

In my case, I recognize the drivers in my CS2.4s are really frackin’ good. IMO, I would have to move up to something like the Vandersteen carbon or TAD beryllium drivers to find something clearly better. Speakers with these drivers are an order of magnitude more expensive than my Thiels! But I think I can get really close to their level of performance by optimizing the XOs. In other words, it's a solution that gets me close to the very best but at a price I can afford.

Also, keep in mind that the technology has advanced since Jim Thiel designed the original XOs. Even the relatively recent Clarity SA coax feeds in my CS2.4SEs have been notably surpassed by Clarity CSA.




Beetlemania, first let me thank you for your informative updates.
For those of us with older Thiel’s let me say concern over failing caps, etc. is of primary importance.
Keep up the good work.
@unsound Glad you find my updates informative. Your CS3.5s must be close to 30 years old - I understand your concern re: cap life. That should further incentivize you to seek Tom Thiel's upgrades as they become available.
unsound

if yea or nay does not work for you, then, your opinion does not count.
Happy Listening!
Yes, Much Thanks! beetlemania.
Keep up the excellent work and feel free to update as developments arise.
Happy Listening!