I went to the doctor and told him I didn't feel good. He ran tests and said I was imagining it because he couldn't see anything in my test results that would explain how I felt. When I left the doctor, I still felt bad and he felt scientific. One of us was experiencing something while the other was busy explaining that the experience wasn't genuine. This illustrates the never-ending "I hear it--no you don't" back and forth on this site. Trotting out what degree we have in a specific discipline, or our technical credentials doesn't invalidate what a person says they sense or experience.
I understand the back and forth isn't going to end--but it can be done in a way that doesn't infer, imply, suggest or expressly say that whoever doesn't agree with the stated position, whichever one it is, must be intellectually inferior, dishonest or lack the acuity to share the experience.
Peace
Al