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High End is Dead?

Browsing used audio sites such as Audiogon and the Marts, high end gear ads are dominated by several dealers. Non-dealer ads are usually people trying to push 15+ year old off-brand junk at 60-70% of MSRP (when they were new). They don't sell anything. You could slash Wilsons, Magicos, etc, 50% off retail and no one will buy them.

No one buys if it costs more than 1k. It's not that they're not interested -- the ads get plenty of views. It's that the asking prices are just way over the ability of buyers to pay. Fact is, if you see a high end piece for sale it's probably by a dealer, often times trying to push it at 15% off retail because its a trade in, but also often they are taking a good chunk off the price 30, 40 sometimes 50% off. They can be famous brands with a million positive reviews. No buyers.

Are we just poor, and that's all there is to it? 
madavid0
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georgehifi
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Who are you George, do you decide what we hear or don’t hear? Your negative and narrow minded view does a disservice to the advancement to HEA.
Same back at ya, for not having the ability to be able to recognise many, not all "snake oil" products when it bites you on the ****.
Anyone one that doesn’t believe there’s "snake oil" products in hi-end audio, and that's it's harmful to the integrity of hiend, is so gullible they can’t see the forest through the trees.

Cheers George
dill
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Come on George, that's just silly talk, expand your mind. Makes me think you might have an agenda ...
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georgehifi
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Think what you like Dill.
"Snake Oil" products are only harmful to credibility of hi-end audio.
Makes me think you might have an agenda ...
Yes I’d love to rid the "snake oil" shysters from Hi-end audio.
Just yesterday I read about a $3k 1mt, $5k 2mt, $7k 3mt iec power leads, really!!!!!.

Cheers George
dill
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And they have quarter million dollar cars, 20 million dollar yachts, 25 million dollar jets, 50 million dollar homes, really!!!!!.
The "snake oil" mantra of the (we know best) naysayers is getting ever so tiring. Go pick on the prescription drug companies, new furniture companies, oil companies and most of the crap they hawk on TV.

Most that inhabit HEA are intelligent people and can make good decisions based on "real life experience" . If all this wire & tweek stuff is bunk, it wouldn't still be here 30+ years later if it didn't provide results. IMO, what is all boils down to is money. If one determines it is too expensive, it must be "snake oil" and I think that is a false conclusion.
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uberwaltz
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Really funny George
Might have known YOU would not believe in power cords either.
Guess you have not tested them and do not need to eh?
What with your EE experience and all.
Say no more guvnor!
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