Talk but not walk?

Prof wrote,

“(BTW, I in no way conclude that all MG’s techniques are without any merit, or that he can not "tune" a room to possibly sound excellent.”

>>>>Gosh, that’s awful decent of you. What a guy!

“But I have to admit now being put off having noticed the character of his posts, and certainly a number of his claims fall well into the dubious woo-woo land of audiophile tweaks, nuzzling happily with things like demagnetizing CDs and many other tweaks that have brought our hobby in to ill-repute).”

>>>>>Unfortunately for your “argument” demagnetizing CDs is actually not snake oil, woo or pseudo science. And even if was, that line of argument is just another one of your many logical fallacies, people that believe in Tuning probably believe in UFOs, that sort of thing. It’s actually people like the professor who are bringing the hobby to ill repute with his long-winded pseudo arguments, diatribes and smear campaign. Better luck next time, professor.

On with the Inquisition! 👺

glupson
However, you will have to agree that thread was successful in what you, and I have to admit me too, feel its purpose was. Some of us have gone to the website that we had not gone before, and got informed about it. Now, that is what I would call a successful marketing. I am yet waiting for verdict if my visit was fortunate or unfortunate. I hope to get an answer about laminar flow (asked in one of my earlier posts) as it would be something new learned and, in some way, a breakthrough in my current understanding and practice that relates to laminar and turbulent flow in daily applications. The question is as simple as it gets, the answer may not be, but I am willing to try and be thankful for clarification.

>>>>As I recall there are certain geometrical devices used on aircraft wings to maintain laminar flow, and prevent turbulent flow. Perhaps that’s what his device does, it certainly sounds like it. Why turbulent flow would be a problem in a listening room is another story. But I do not see his lack of explanation to be as big a deal as you do. 

geoffkait,

I have not thought that lack of Michael's explanation/answer of my question is a big deal, although I am interested in an answer. I thought he simply have not read my question either because he has not read thread recently, or he has not paid attention to my question as it was not explicitly addressed to him.


I am in no way an aeronautic engineer and would not be able to discuss the design features of a plane. I believe your statements about wings and that makes me even more curious about its application in the room as stationary walls are not exactly moving in one direction (absolutely or relatively) as airplane wings are. Since yesterday, I have been unsuccessful in locating any explanation of an object placed in the stream of laminar flow making it even more organized (what does that actually mean?). It may be due to my search technique and sources and it may be because I really haven't spent whole sunday looking for it. Still, it is intriguing to me and you opened yet another avenue for my curiosity. If placing something in the path of laminar flow really "organizes" that flow, how does it work in the room? At this point, I am not even interested about its influence on sound, but just plain basic flow of fluids.

I, just like prof, do think that Michael is passionate about what he writes about, regardless if I agree or disagree with him on something or nothing and I do not give him too many negative points for obviously pushing his business here (the man has to pay electricity for his equipment, at least), but I have a feeling he may know something about this topic that I do not. I hope neither him, nor you, find it unacceptable to ask for some knowledge-sharing from those who seem to know better. If it is not acceptable, I apologize.

@glupson - Breaking News!! Laminar in listening rooms!

But first allow me to say laminar flow can be produced either by an aircraft moving through still air or by air moving around or into solid objects like walls. The air is moving because the speakers are producing acoustic waves, I.e., moving air. It’s the relative motion. In a wind tunnel, where laminar and turbulent flow can be studied, the model of the aircraft is stationary and the air is moving, no?

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